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Missing explosives capture spotlight - John Pike cites "treasure trove," soft peddles WMD
Baltimore Sun ^ | October 26, 2004 | David L. Greene, Tom Bowman and Julie Hirschfeld Davis

Posted on 10/26/2004 3:43:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

....Treasure trove

Military analysts had mixed reactions to the significance of the missing explosives.

John Pike, a defense analyst for GlobalSecurity. org, said the explosives, the disappearance of which was first reported in yesterday's New York Times, would prove to be an "unprecedented treasure trove" of bomb-making material.

"I think the evil-doers will put it to good use," he said. "You'd have to be concerned. We'll be hearing about it again."

The missing cache, reported to be about 380 tons of the explosives HMX and RDX, not only offers a large quantity of material but more importantly has useful "fabrication properties" for making bombs, Pike said.

The materials can handily be molded and shaped into bombs, he said, but the explosives are only "slightly more powerful" than TNT and not as explosive as C4 chemical explosives.

While both HMX and RDX can be used in detonating nuclear bombs, there is no indication that whoever took the explosives has materials for building a nuclear weapon. Those materials are more difficult to acquire, Pike said....

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: campaign; cnn; criminallies; dirtytricks; explosives; globalsecurity; globalsecurityorg; hanoijohnny; johnpike; kerry; kerrystinks; media; missingexplosives; msm; nbc; nytimes; spin; terrorism; wmd; wot
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To: tirednvirginia

Has the Bush Administration or the Pentagon issued any statement on this yet except to say they question the timing? Good Lord, they must stop this NOW.


21 posted on 10/26/2004 4:03:28 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia
Sounds like it's time for you to place a phone call or send an e-mail to that newspaper, demanding a retraction in tomorrow's edition. Make it front page, above the fold, please. :-)
22 posted on 10/26/2004 4:04:22 AM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: tirednvirginia

Check Post #2.


23 posted on 10/26/2004 4:08:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tirednvirginia

Fox and Friends is debunking the lie now.


24 posted on 10/26/2004 4:09:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tirednvirginia
Has the Bush Administration or the Pentagon issued any statement on this yet except to say they question the timing? Good Lord, they must stop this NOW.

You're right, they must. I'm afraid they'll be too timid to fight back, just like they have been on Kerry's baseless Tora Bora charges. Kerry keeps saying Bush dropped the ball at Tora Bora, but Gen. Franks has contradicted Kerry on just about every one of his points in a little-publicized editorial. Most Americans have only heard Kerry's allegations and not Franks' account. If I was Karl Rove, I'd be making Kerry eat his words. I'd be asking the American people who they trust - Gen. Franks or the goose hunter?

25 posted on 10/26/2004 4:10:45 AM PDT by billclintonwillrotinhell
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Lockhart did not elaborate on how the Bush campaign was distorting the NBC report.....

That's odd. Lockhart is usually so talkative.

26 posted on 10/26/2004 4:21:01 AM PDT by syriacus (I'm commanded to LOVE appeaseniks, but I don't have to VOTE for one as Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
More "stuff from email"--

Kerry wants answers on missing explosives

 Report: Explosives already gone when U.S. troops arrived (CNN reporting on this now)
 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.
 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256997/posts
 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES
 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.
 Hanoi John: Kerry and the Antiwar Movement’s Communist Connections
 Credit: Captain's Quarters, complete with WashPo articles and Lexis Nexis'd archives of the timeline and Kerry's schedule.
 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets?
 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
 Link
 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
 
 HUGE CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ AT LEAST 18 MONTHS AGO BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED
 
NBC BLOWS A HOLE IN NY TIMES' EXPLOSIVES STORY (KERRY SPOT)
 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
 

27 posted on 10/26/2004 4:37:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: All

This story has already been debunked by NBC. Also, AP had a story at the same time in 2003 that mentioned the fact that no explosives of the type cited by the NYT were there. They were gone when we got there. For your information: Polipundit.com has run a contest to name this scandal and the winner was by litig8tr. He proposed NYTrogate....(nitrogate) Hilarious. This is what we will call this fake story. NYTimes ran another story about it today but that was because they were too late to pull it after NBC ran their story last night. Keep hammering on NYT and CBS who collaborated on this fake story to smear Bush.


28 posted on 10/26/2004 4:40:25 AM PDT by calex59
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To: MNJohnnie

I is worth noting that neither CNN International nor BBC has reported beyond saying the material was stolen in 2003 and quoting Lockhart. The IAEA report that the materials were missing a month prior to the USA siezure of the sight has only been reported on local news. I am sure I will read the entire story in the International Herald Tribune tomarrow (lol).


29 posted on 10/26/2004 4:56:54 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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To: calex59; JimSEA

Bump!


30 posted on 10/26/2004 5:27:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe

Thank you for the info and LINKS!


31 posted on 10/26/2004 5:27:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

NYT article by Sanger is still spinning this, saying the Bush camp scrambled to get to the bottom of this and that the Atomic International warned the White house. CNN just said Bush says they MAY have disappeared before invasion. This is unreal...everyone spinning and no one telling the truth.


32 posted on 10/26/2004 6:07:46 AM PDT by Kadanne (Truth and integrity equal Bush and Cheney)
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To: Kadanne

On Fox & Friends this AM Jamie (??) Amanpor's husband - who works as Kerry's foreign affairs advisor said, (paraphrased) that this new information makes no difference. He said it just shows that the Bush administration didn't have enough men on the ground going in to cover all these sights and that he didn't have enough men on the ground in Afghanistan to get bin Laden. Yada yada yada....


33 posted on 10/26/2004 6:15:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JimSEA

The disappearance raised questions about why the United States didn't do more to secure the Al-Qaqaa facility 30 miles south of Baghdad and failed to allow full international inspections to resume after the March 2003 invasion.

But Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said coalition forces were present in the vicinity of the site both during and after major combat operations, which ended May 1, 2003 — and searched the facility but found none of the explosives material in question. That raised the possibility that the explosives had disappeared before U.S. soldiers could secure the site in the immediate invasion aftermath.

The Pentagon would not say whether it had informed the nuclear agency at that point that the conventional explosives were not where they were supposed to be.

Al-Qaqaa is near Youssifiyah, an area rife with ambush attacks. An Associated Press Television News crew that drove past the compound Monday saw no visible security at the gates of the site, a jumble of low-slung, yellow-colored storage buildings that appeared deserted.

"The most immediate concern here is that these explosives could have fallen into the wrong hands," IAEA spokeswoman Melissa Fleming said.

The agency first placed a seal over Al-Qaqaa storage bunkers holding the explosives in 1991 as part of U.N. sanctions that ordered the dismantlement of Iraq's nuclear program after the Gulf War.

IAEA inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers, Fleming said. Inspectors visited the site again in March 2003, but didn't view the explosives because the seals were not broken, she said.


http://wcco.com/topstories/topstories_story_300075944.html


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Note to IAEA, never trust a brutal dictator. Break seals and check for yourself.


34 posted on 10/26/2004 6:52:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: backhoe

Well would somebody tell these john f*** kerry affiliates to get up to speed on this lie!!!! Ch 4 here in NoVa just did a lead in with the missing explosives which never went missing.


35 posted on 10/26/2004 7:43:52 AM PDT by branch1
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