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Timeline on missing explosives in Iraq
Boston.com ^ | 10/25/2004 16:24 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/25/2004 10:14:37 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy

1991: The International Atomic Energy Agency placed a seal over storage bunkers holding conventional explosives known as HMX and RDX at the Al-Qaqaa facility south of Baghdad as part of U.N. sanctions that ordered the dismantlement of Iraq's nuclear program after the Gulf War. HMX is a ''dual use'' substance powerful enough to ignite the fissile material in an atomic bomb and set off a nuclear chain reaction.

January 2003: IAEA inspectors viewed the explosives at Al-Qaqaa for the last time. The inspectors took an inventory and again placed storage bunkers at Al-Qaqaa under agency seal.

February 2003: IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei told the United Nations that Iraq had declared that ''HMX previously under IAEA seal had been transferred for use in the production of industrial explosives.'' This apparently did not include the HMX that remained under seal at Al-Qaqaa.

March 2003: Nuclear agency inspectors visited Al-Qaqaa for the last time but did not examine the explosives because the seals were not broken. The inspectors then pulled out of the country.

March 2003: The U.S.-led coalition invaded Iraq.

After the invasion: The Pentagon said Monday that ''coalition forces were present in the vicinity at various times during and after major combat operations. The forces searched 32 bunkers and 87 other buildings at the facility, but found no indicators of WMD (weapons of mass destruction). While some explosive material was discovered, none of it carried IAEA seals.

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1 posted on 10/25/2004 10:14:37 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Why is the entry for April 10, 2003 missing?


2 posted on 10/25/2004 10:22:40 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Who is the manufacturer of that material? What is the "dual use status" on explosives? Why wasn't it destroyed...too much (hundreds of tons) I assume?


3 posted on 10/25/2004 10:22:42 PM PDT by endthematrix (10 out of 10 terrorists agree-Anybody but Bush!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

They left out some stuff:

XXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON OCT 25 2004 22:45:05 ET XXXXX

NBCNEWS: CACHE OF EXPLOSIVES VANISHED FROM SITE IN IRAQ BEFORE TROOPS ARRIVED...

The NYTIMES urgently reported on Monday in an apprent October Surprise: The Iraqi interim government and the U.N. nuclear agency have warned the United States that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives are now missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations.

[The source behind the NYT story first went to CBSNEWS' 60 MINUTES last Wednesday, but the network wasn't able to get the piece on the air as fast as the newspaper could print.]

Jumping on the TIMES exclusive, Dem presidential candidate John Kerry blasted the Bush administration for its failure to "guard those stockpiles."

"This is one of the great blunders of Iraq, one of the great blunders of this administration," Kerry said.

In an election week rush:

**ABCNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 4 Times
**CBSNEWS Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 7 Times
**MSNBC Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 37 Times
**CNN Mentioned The Iraq Explosives Depot At Least 50 Times

But tonight, NBCNEWS reported: The 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives were already missing back in April 10, 2003 -- when U.S. troops arrived at the installation south of Baghdad!

An NBCNEWS crew embedded with troops moved in to secure the Al-Qaqaa weapons facility on April 10, 2003, one day after the liberation of Iraq.

According to NBCNEWS, the HMX and RDX explosives were already missing when the American troops arrived.

"The U.S. Army was at the site one day after the liberation and the weapons were already gone," a top Republican blasted from Washington late Monday.

The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers.

Dem vp hopeful John Edwards blasted Bush for not securing the explosives: "It is reckless and irresponsible to fail to protect and safeguard one of the largest weapons sites in the country. And by either ignoring these mistakes or being clueless about them, George Bush has failed. He has failed as our commander in chief; he has failed as president."

A senior Bush official e-mailed DRUDGE late Monday: "Let me get this straight, are Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards now saying we did not go into Iraq soon enough? We should have invaded and liberated Iraq sooner?"

Top Kerry adviser Joe Lockhart fired back Monday night: "In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame. Instead of distorting John Kerry’s words, the Bush campaign is now falsely and deliberately twisting the reports of journalists. It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."

Why is the U.N. nuclear agency suddenly warning now that insurgents in Iraq may have obtained nearly 400 tons of missing explosives -- in early 2003?

NBCNEWS Jim Miklaszewski quoted one official: "Recent disagreements between the administration and the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency makes this announcement appear highly political."

Developing...


4 posted on 10/25/2004 10:23:11 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

This confirms what Drudge is saying. The stuff wasn't there.


5 posted on 10/25/2004 10:23:41 PM PDT by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: Post Toasties
Because this is from The Boston Globe?
6 posted on 10/25/2004 10:23:43 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin
Because this is from The Boston Globe?

Which is owned by the New York Times.

The things we learn on FR!

7 posted on 10/25/2004 10:29:03 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Is the Globe claiming there have been no inspectors in Iraq since before the war started??


8 posted on 10/25/2004 10:29:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Spec. Ops got there first, removed weapons etc.? But wait! The DNC will call that "dirty pool"! Unfair, would CBS approve? Maybe this is why little or nothing has been said to now. Let the hacks shoot themselves in foot again and again.


9 posted on 10/25/2004 10:33:06 PM PDT by Waco
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The whole idea of using seals to lock stuff up is a joke. If the inspectors simply walk by and see that the seals are unbroken it means nothing. Who says the Iraqis didn't tunnel into the bunkers and remove the stuff. Or even just forge new seals after removing the old ones. Couldn't be that tough.


10 posted on 10/25/2004 10:33:20 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (W stands for Winner)
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To: Mo1

The way I read it, this confirms the explosives were already gone when we got there.


11 posted on 10/25/2004 10:33:28 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy
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To: Post Toasties

They do not say that the U.S. was responsible for the security of the facility, yet they leave out the information that the troops had not yet arrived at the facility to secure it, therefore leaving the impression that it was a Bush Administration screw up. Sounds like a usual U.N. gaffe to me.

Please e-mail AP with your disgust. It is hit-time now - you should see Yahoo news. All of the headlines are hit pieces on the Bush Administration!! Freep the hell out of them.


12 posted on 10/25/2004 10:36:47 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Bush/Cheney '04: "Four more years of hell".......for the Left.)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
The Tuesday morning NYSlimes compounds the errors in the Monday story.

No mention of the NBC debunking. This is very curious.

Could this be the Slimes version of Rathergate?

How can they simply go forward, refusing to report the fact that these explosives were gone before our troops arrived?

And what about the complicity of the IAEC official and the U.N.?

Could this be a ploy to divert attention from the "oil-for-food" scandal dogging the U.N.?

13 posted on 10/25/2004 10:37:54 PM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Pardon me for being a little fuzzy on this, but is the thrust of the New York Times story that after the invasion, with the country in flames, the roads locked down, and the Iraqi Army dispersed and scattered, that somehow, a few enterprising insurgents stole THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TONS of explosives out from under our noses?

I don't know if anyone here has been part of any major logisitical endeavor, but 380 tons of whatever item you want doesn't just get up and move itself. You need more than a pack of dudes and a pickup truck.

If the stuff was there when we got there, it would be almost impossible to move it without attracting attention. If it wasn't, then who knows when it was moved? If I had to guess, I'd say 'Probably around the time the WMD was shipped out as well'.

I'm so not buying this story.

14 posted on 10/25/2004 10:38:14 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (There's only three kinds of people in this world...)
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To: Howlin

Now we have to wait and see if in NBC's reporting they contradict the NYT.


16 posted on 10/25/2004 10:39:57 PM PDT by Caged in Canuckistan
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To: Steel Wolf
I don't know if anyone here has been part of any major logisitical endeavor, but 380 tons of whatever item you want doesn't just get up and move itself.

Until you mentioned it, I didn't really picture just how much 380 tons is. It's pretty hard to believe it would have been in any way possible to move that much freight after the invasion.
17 posted on 10/25/2004 10:47:13 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Mo1

Of course, we sure aren't going to hear about the actual time when the weapons disappeared the MSM, are we?


18 posted on 10/25/2004 10:48:04 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug
They do not say that the U.S. was responsible for the security of the facility, yet they leave out the information that the troops had not yet arrived at the facility to secure it, therefore leaving the impression that it was a Bush Administration screw up. Sounds like a usual U.N. gaffe to me.

To me, this is "paper reality". "Officially" the stuff was there, and would remain so until "officially" it wasn't there. The first instance of the latter condition occurred when the U.S. secured the site and noted its absence. Therefore that's when it disappeared.

19 posted on 10/25/2004 10:52:29 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: nhconserv
Sorry, but I think this does not bode well for Bush. I myself have to wonder, what in the world is going on over there that these well-known facilities were not heavily guarded?

Oh, please. Nobody has to believe Drudge. He's not the source for the timeline, an embedded reporter with NBC news is. The stuff was already gone. Second, the occupation has already destroyed 200,000 tons of ordinance, and has another 200-250,000 tons yet to destroy. The amount stolen doesn't even represent one tenth of a percent.

It's just another attempted hatchet job by the Media wing of the Democrat party. If this is the Dems October surprise, they're in heap big trouble.

20 posted on 10/25/2004 10:52:31 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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