[TheHube]

Looks like this story

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[ArmyBratCutie]

good grief!!...that sounds bad, not good for us

[tazannie]

I posted this a little while ago and the thread was pulled. I don't know why.

[Eva]

No, I don't think so. Besides, only the NYT could hold the Bush administration responible for not securing munitions that the UN inspectors said were not there.

[citizen]

If that source has it right, this is VERY bad.

[CurlyDave]

The way this will spin is that Bush personally left this particular bunker unguarded. Therefore Bush alone is responsible for the consequences of the explosive.

Never mind that Sadam had amassed it in the first place or that there were thousands of places needing guarding and only so many troups to do the guarding.

Remember back in the first days after the war when it looked like a bunch of museum pieces had been stolen and the RATs were trying to make hay over that. Would they rather that we guard the museum or the explosive bunker?

[dead]

Holy crap. Bush didn't secure every pound of explosives in a military regime the size of California.

Shocking.

[js1138]

Bottom line: Saddam had the explosives needed to trigger a nuke. These explosives went missing in the early days of the war. The Bush administration has tried to keep this secret.

The question becomes: why the secrecy? Is there some military significance to the secrecy, or is it a screw-up we have tried to hide?

The second question is: isn't this a critical component of a nuke program?

[faithincowboys]

But I thought Saddam was no threat?

These people need to keep their stories straight?

Did it ever occur to them, that it was looted before we got to
Baghdad? Or that we didn't no the location of the stockpile?

Of course, none of this matters to the masters of competency on the Left. They can't change an effing tire, but they can run a perfect war. What Garbage!!

[sportutegrl]

Death. Taxes. Rats coming forth with a late October suprise. Remember Bush DWI?

[airborne]

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

[zeebee]

This writer's page is filled with Bush hit pieces from Tora Bora, Halliburton and P.U.L.L. to voter supression.

This site is pure hatred for Bush and I would not take it any more seriously than the things you might read at DU.

You may also wish to notice that TheHube is a newbie troll. Check his In Forum

[elizabetty]

Class, ... CLASS .... CLASSS!!! SHUT UP!! Thank you. Sister Mary Elephant

I thought we could use a little humor break to catch our collective breath and see this for what it really is.

[Proud Legions]

To all:

STOP responding to this thread. It is just an attempt to draw folks away fromt he great news that Bush is up 50-43 in the latest Zogby poll, and up by 5 in Ohio. The tide is rolling in Bush's favor, and these trolls just want to scare everyone each time we start talking about good news.

[ladyinred]

Ah yes, this is most likely what Kerry was referring to in that debate about not guarding the WMD.

[spunkets]

" the Defense Department has been trying to keep this secret for some time. The DOD even went so far as to order the Iraqis not to inform the IAEA that the materials had gone missing. Informing the IAEA, of course, would lead to it becoming public knowledge in the United States.

This story is bogus. DOD does not keep things like this secret. If something like this occured at all, the matl's were taken prior to US forces knowing about the pile and the USDOD has no reason to beleive the claims are true. Otherwise the story consists purely of accusations, rumor and other purely contrived rubbish.

Here's a fact: Most of the IEDs exploded, or discovered in Iraq are derived from, or are rigged munitions themselves. They are rigged ordnance, not raw HE.

Also, it is officers on the ground in Iraq that are responsible for these sort of things, not Bush, Cheney, or Rummy. THey didn't cover up Abu Garab(sp), failure to protect the antiquities in the museums, and they aren't covering up anything else.

Rats rely on BS to get anywhere, that's all this is.

[Toonces T. Cat]

This looks like a total crock to me:

"RDX is a colourless solid, of density 1.82 g/cm³."

That means that one kilo, or 2.2lbs., is a cube about 3.5" on each side...think Rubik's Cube here. 350 tons of this stuff would amount to almost 320,000 of these cubes. That is one huge pile of RDX and enough weight to fill 35 or 40 full-size dump trucks.

I'm sorry, but an operation of that size would not have gone unnoticed. In fact, I think we are the only ones in the area that could pull it off. If there is that much stuff, we have it or the actual quantity should read 350lbs. or 350kilos.

-Toonces

[focusandclarity]

After reading the article link

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/index-old.php

you posted, (quote) "Not only are these super-high-yield explosives... these particular explosives are ones used in the triggering process for nuclear weapons."

I think the question needs to be posed to the IAEA, the UN Weapon Inspectors, The UN which was not enforcing the sanctions and the Truce agreement Saddam agreed to after the Gulf War, and Bill Clinton;

"What were 350 tons of these high explosives (RDX and HMX),doing in Iraq in the first place??????"

Hey Blix and UN WMD Inspectors, Bill Clinton, Senator-Candidates Kerry and Edwards, and the whole U.S. Congress read this..."these explosives are the ones used in the triggering process for nuclear weapons."

And I don't care whether they were under IAEA seal while Saddam was in power or not. The last time the IAEA was in Iraq was when, 1998? Not it seems the U.S. Congress in 1998 was giving both Hussein and Clinton a pass! Need I ask again, what were these explosives doing in Iraq at the start of the war?

If the NYTimes breaks this story, will no one ask these questions above.

[Mjaye]

This is an attempt to show that Bush wasn't guarding the weapons. Ooops, uh, there weren't supposed to BE any bad weapons, so Kerry will now flip flop and say that he said there WERE weapons before he said there were NO weapons, and, anyhow, he would have guarded them better.

[zip]

super leftist, anti Bush site.

[Spunky]

From Article: As I've noted, the White House and the Pentagon have known for more than a year that this stuff had gone missing. But the White House, according to TPM sources, has known that this story was coming for at least ten days. Again, not just the underlying facts -- that the stuff had been stolen and was being used against American troops (they've known that for more than a year) -- but the fact that this story was going to break in the not too distant future. And they've been going to great lengths to try to push it back until after the election.
Talking Points Memo

This story is not new to those who use the Internet. I remember reading MONTHS ago about this.

Naturally they are going to bring it out again and this time REALLY splash it across the news media for all those who may not have heard about it almost a year ago in an attempt to influence the election.