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British Navy approves Satanist to perform Satanic rituals
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Posted on 10/24/2004 3:19:18 AM PDT by BushWillLandslide

Navy approves first ever Satanist

Mr Cranmer will be allowed to perform Satanic rituals The British Armed Forces has officially recognised its first registered Satanist, according to a newspaper report. Naval technician Chris Cranmer, 24, has been allowed to register by the captain of HMS Cumberland.

The move will mean that he will now be allowed to perform Satanic rituals on board the vessel.

According to the Sunday Telegraph, Mr Cranmer realised he was a Satanist nine years ago.

Religious values

At the time he stumbled across a copy of the Satanic Bible, written by Church of Satan founder Anton Szandor LaVey.

He said: "I then read more and more and came to realise I'd always been a Satanist, just simply never knew."

Mr Cranmer, who is from Edinburgh, is now lobbying the Ministry of Defence to make Satanism a registered religion in the armed forces.

A spokesman for the Royal Navy said: "We are an equal opportunities employer and we don't stop anybody from having their own religious values."

The Church of Satan was established in San Francisco in 1966.

LaVey was its high priest until his death in 1997.

Followers live by the Nine Satanic Statements, which include "Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence", "Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek" and "Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification".

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To: SirLurkedalot
Yes...I thought so. I always find the origins of words interesting.

The word "Satan" in Hebrew means "Adversary". There is a massive cosmic battle going on at the moment between the forces of light and the forces of darkness. It is a Titanic Struggle, (as in huge, not sinking.)

Very, very powerful people have the fate of the world in their hands right now. They are fully aware of how delicately balanced world politics is at the moment. They know exactly what is going on. We'll see how they exercise their powers over the next few days, weeks and months.Fortunately throughout history a few righteous individuals are left to keep the very fabric of the universe together. This little episode from the BBC and the RN is just a "test".
41 posted on 10/24/2004 4:32:32 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Bandaneira

The Light will win. This does'nt make watching His plan unfold any easier.


42 posted on 10/24/2004 4:38:14 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (I'll turn in my guns when Jesus comes to collect them. In the meantime....)
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To: Bandaneira

"Britain has been full of Satanists for a long time"

Really?

WOW! You'd think I'd have noticed.

How about in the US? No satanists at all over there?

Noooo, course not.


43 posted on 10/24/2004 4:41:39 AM PDT by BritishBulldog (New Labour - Putting the "National" back into "Socialist")
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To: McCarthy Joe
Did God appoint you sole arbiter of determining who and what is evil? He didn't need to he gave it a name Satan

here's a definition for you:

Satan: The Devil, a fallen angel, a spiritual being opposed to God, who exercises leadership over evil spirits who work to deceive people into rebellious opposition to God.

The prince of evil - His name means adversary. Jesus also called Him the deceiver, the father of lies. He suffered eternal defeat in His conflict with Christ - a defeat which can never be overturned. The Christian is now empowered to have victory over the Devil "by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony" (Revelation 12:11), ie: through Christ's death and their faith. The Devil's only way of keeping us apart from the triumph of Christ is to deceive us into rebellion.

and there is also something about how to deal with it "Hate evil, love good, ..."

44 posted on 10/24/2004 4:45:14 AM PDT by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: BritishBulldog
Yes of course there has been Satanists in all Western Countries, Great Southern Land included. They are a plague that should be eliminated.

England is a fine land. My Great-Great-Great Grandfather got a free ticket courtesy of the Georgian Crown way back in 1817. One way, all expenses paid trip on the Almorah, via The Downs - Teneriffe - Cape Verde - Rio de Janeiro - Hobart Town (125 Days Journey)

P.S. How is Crystal Palace going in the Premier League. A good mate of mine from the Old Dart is a mad Palace supporter.
45 posted on 10/24/2004 4:52:09 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: SirLurkedalot
We are all part of the fabric of the universe. At this time in human history, every second, minute, hour and day matters. Small things can tip the balance of the universe. Prayer, vigilance and right action will see us all through. What did Edmund Burke say...

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing."

Edmund Burke was a great Englishman.
46 posted on 10/24/2004 4:55:26 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Neanderthal
"The Church of Satan was established in San Francisco in 1966."

Oh yeah, it's swish and sway on Satan's Day in San Fran ;-)

47 posted on 10/24/2004 5:01:57 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Bandaneira

Amen


48 posted on 10/24/2004 5:08:07 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot (I'll turn in my guns when Jesus comes to collect them. In the meantime....)
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To: BushWillLandslide

Maybe this Cranmer will write the "Book of Common Curses".
If the Brits let crap like this continue, there won't 'always be an England'.


49 posted on 10/24/2004 5:15:36 AM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: varon
Anton La Vey had lots of international visitors for whom he procured various delights. Sick fu****. He died in pain. In Jewish mysticism there is a belief that when the righteous die, the time their soul leaves their body is like plucking a hair out of a saucer of milk. i.e. It is effortless and without resistance. When the unrighteous die there is a terrible, violent struggle for the transition of the soul.

Guess which ending Satanists will experience ?

I watched "Gladiator" last night. By chance it was on television. At the end of the movie the hero is tied up and paid a visit by the evil Emperor. The Emperor has to be seen by the people to be brave and tough. He wants to fight the hero in the Colosseum in full view of the people. He has to win the fight, and it has to be seen to be fair. To make sure his devious plans are successful, he pierces the back of the hero with a knife that inflicts a mortal wound that will slowly drain the hero of his strength. The wound is covered up by the Emperors' minions. The fight ensues. The hero wins. It is a Pyhrric victory. He dies not long after.

The dream sequence at the end shows very well how the righteous may experience the moment of death. Their passing really is like plucking a hair out of a saucer of milk.
50 posted on 10/24/2004 5:21:55 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Bandaneira

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3727540.stm


51 posted on 10/24/2004 5:50:01 AM PDT by BritishBulldog (New Labour - Putting the "National" back into "Socialist")
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To: McCarthy Joe
God gave us his word and Holy Spirit so we would not remain in darkness...gave us discernment and charged us with sorting out good from evil...

Of course there are many who choose to remain in darkness and not only call it light
but demand everyone tolerate them even to the point of destroying the nation
God gave us.

The point is should we should not stand back and 'tolerate' in the name of diversity or any other socialist agenda every destructive
depraved idiot that comes along demanding his or her way to dominate or push our culture...
in directions neither God nor the Founding Fathers planned for us to go.

And as tax payers why should we pay to accommodate them or their desires to spread their depravity..

Naturally those who wish to destroy scream the loudest about 'their rights' when their 'right to what ever it is their black little hearts call them to do' is called into
question

Our founding fathers were nearly all practicing Christians and even those one or two (who atheists give the most attention to) who were fence straddlers...believed that a nation was best led by God fearing men and that our nation's laws and guiding principles were best when they reflected God laws...

Tolerance and diversity of things contrary to our founding fathers principles is a camel who is now head and shoulders under America's tent...to further encourage it to displace all that was good in America is national suicide...

Of course the hater of our soul and our nation knows this ..and this is part and parcel to his plan...unfortunately in our day and age he has far too many helpers even among 'conservatives'

imo
52 posted on 10/24/2004 5:55:16 AM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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To: BritishBulldog
3-Nil !!!

My mate will surely be having a few pints at some fine establishment in London after this result. When he was living here in Melbourne, he subscribed specially to cable TV so he could watch the games live from London. He would sing the Crystal Palace theme song at the top of his voice after a win, but my memory banks seem not to have stored that sweet and melodious tune.

Thanks for the updated news.
53 posted on 10/24/2004 5:57:06 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: joesnuffy
The American Constitution is a fine document.
54 posted on 10/24/2004 5:58:04 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon...)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Sign of the times in which we live.....the END times...

Well written. Islamofascism may very well be the tool of Britain's judgement.


55 posted on 10/24/2004 6:15:37 AM PDT by American Vet Repairman (A liberal taking a tax deduction is the essence of hipocrisy.)
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To: Bandaneira
Edmund Burke was a great Englishman.

I shall leave the question of whether he was great open (personally, I'm not that keen on whiggery and much prefer Toryism). But he certainly was not an Englishman - he was born in Dublin. He was British, but not English.
56 posted on 10/24/2004 7:04:29 AM PDT by tjwmason (Coerced and bribed window-dressing.)
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To: BushWillLandslide
I think it is, but you can never trust the BBC.

Their factual statements are generally accurate. Also, this story is in The Sunday Telegraph which would add weight to its veracity.

I don't know why we try to work with the UK.

????? I presume that you are from the U.S. Do you honestly think that nothing like this is happening in your neck of the woods as well.
57 posted on 10/24/2004 7:06:45 AM PDT by tjwmason (Coerced and bribed window-dressing.)
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To: gobucks
Folks have a pretty good idea about the difference between a cult and a religion (of course, there are a couple of notable exceptions). In this case, its an open and shut case of a cult gaining a foothold.

The difference between a cult & a religion is in how long the cult survives. Witness the Moonies. Or Islam. Or...

58 posted on 10/24/2004 1:30:29 PM PDT by jennyp (It was a dark and stormy night. The world was in crisis. As usual...)
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To: varon

LOL


59 posted on 10/24/2004 2:54:59 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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