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"Going UpRiver" shows Honorable John Kerry
Times Record ^ | October 22, 2004 | Jim McCarthy

Posted on 10/23/2004 5:34:29 AM PDT by LibertyBelt

"Going Upriver" takes Vietnam-era film footage, a sound track of 1960s music from Crosby, Stills and Nash, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix and Bob Dylan (to name a few), and juxtaposes those in-the-moment images and sounds with poignant interviews of Kerry's Swift Boat crew members and others who came home with a burning need to stop the war.

It raises important questions such as, why would a bright, talented Yale student volunteer to serve in Vietnam, instead of seeking a deferment or having his diplomat father pull a few strings to land him a less risky assignment (as others of his generation did, including more than a few members of the Bush administration).

The answers given in this documentary - idealism and a sense of duty - might seem too pat except for the context provided by the filmmaker. Like many young men and women of his generation, Kerry was inspired by the clarion call of President John F. Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

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KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; benedictarnold; enemywithin; honorable; kerry; traitor; vietnamwar
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Read the whole review before commenting. Does this review make a good case? This is a charged issue for us here at FR. Maybe we are just as blind to some things as the left is blind to others because our own passions get in the way?
1 posted on 10/23/2004 5:34:30 AM PDT by LibertyBelt
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To: LibertyBelt

That "up river" film footage - was that one of Kerry's 8mm. RE-ENACTMENTS? Does anyone know?


2 posted on 10/23/2004 5:38:32 AM PDT by highflight (be alert - when a buzzard appears as an eagle!)
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To: LibertyBelt

You've got to be kidding? Right!


3 posted on 10/23/2004 5:40:44 AM PDT by rose
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To: LibertyBelt

Any good is completely overshadowed by his behavior when he returned.

He met with the enemy in Paris and as far as I am concerned he should have been tried for treason at that point.


4 posted on 10/23/2004 5:42:05 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swill leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: LibertyBelt

Ah, the pervasive power of visual images. How could John Kerry have gotten into Cambodia on Christmas Eve of 1968?

And who is "Jenjhis Kahn"?

How does connecting TELEPHONE wires to genitals deliver much of a shock? Unless this is some new way of having "phone sex".


5 posted on 10/23/2004 5:43:41 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: LibertyBelt
Does it show FnKerry Running Scared UpRiver, leaving Rassman bobbing in the water cork?

Does it show FnKerry Running Scared UpRiver while other swift boats and crews were helping the damanged boat and it's crew?

Kerry ran like the COWARD he is!

6 posted on 10/23/2004 5:47:30 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: LibertyBelt
instead of seeking a deferment...

How many deferments did John Kerry SEEK???

Do any FReepers know the answer to this MSM hidden fact?

He was granted 4 deferments and sought after a FIFTH...

7 posted on 10/23/2004 5:48:05 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free!)
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To: alloysteel
How does connecting TELEPHONE wires to genitals deliver much of a shock?

Have you ever held telephone wires when the phone rings? Its not pleasant.

8 posted on 10/23/2004 5:50:36 AM PDT by Grit ('For the love of my brother, and for the love of my country.' - Pat Tillman)
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To: LibertyBelt
..."I shall not seek, and will not accept your nomination, for another term as president."... Johnson refused to serve as President because, 1.) He mirco-managed the war and helped destroy our biys. 2.) He was scared as XXXX because Kennedy was assassinated. He thought he was next and looked under the bed each night.

It doesn't explain Kerry's treason, based on the "glowing" (misleading narrative)

How coult this "Yale" graduate go from "patriotism" to TRAITOR and LIE? How was he able to gain entry into Congressional hearings? (Yes, the was the Kennedy connection, McGovern, etc., but WHO, specifically? Anyone know?) How did the TRAITOR, a relatively low ranking officer gain entré to the VC delegate to the Paris Treaty Peace Talks? How do they explain General Giap ( www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165078/posts ) indicating Kerry prolonged the war, the killing and the torture of POWs?

9 posted on 10/23/2004 5:52:16 AM PDT by Henchman (Who gave KERRY entré to the VC @ Paris? T.Kennedy? McGovern? ...some"high" low D'rat probably)
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To: highflight
That "up river" film footage - was that one of Kerry's 8mm. RE-ENACTMENTS? Does anyone know?

I *believe* it was. One of the veterans in the Sinclair broadcast last night brought up that point.

10 posted on 10/23/2004 5:52:22 AM PDT by Grit ('For the love of my brother, and for the love of my country.' - Pat Tillman)
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"... why would a bright, talented Yale student volunteer to serve in Vietnam?"

It's hard to get past this piece of propaganda, for one thing. Kerry attempted to obtain, and was denied, a student deferment to study in France. He then joined the Naval Reserves. I am unaware that he, at any time, volunteered for duty in Viet Nam. At the time he was assigned to PCF's, they were doing postal patrol, not going up river. When he started getting shot at, he was out of there as fast as some scratches would allow. He came back and trashed the reputations of every fighting man in the military. He saw military service not as "service", but as an "opportunity" to advance his political ambitions. Had the war been popular, I believe we would have seen quite a different JFK. Where am I wrong?


11 posted on 10/23/2004 5:53:30 AM PDT by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: LibertyBelt

Kim Jung Il has produced dozens of "documentaries" of his "heroics". Apparently we've been blinded by the whining of people who were forced to eat their children under his rule.

A lot of good things came out of nazi Germany too and it only cost the death and suffering of untold millions. Again we must have been blinded.


What a load of crap.


12 posted on 10/23/2004 5:56:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: OpusatFR

From the article: "The movie ends with an older John Kerry, now a senator, flying over the beautiful countryside of Vietnam. He appears lost in thought. He refers to the war as the formative experience of his life - and concludes that for him, and the nation, it has never really ended.

"It was a moment when this country confronted, and didn't confront, a lot of things," he said. "We haven't finished that confrontation. We haven't learned those lessons yet."

The last quote by John Kerry is the scariest insight into his psyche - He hasn't finished his confrontation or learned the lessons of his treachery.


13 posted on 10/23/2004 5:58:15 AM PDT by highflight (be alert - when a buzzard appears as an eagle!)
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the footage was not footage that actually happened when Kerry was there. There are more vets who dispute Kerry's version then there are vets who back him up. The real issue is this: What did he do when he got home? He put our troops in danger, he backed the communist plan to end the war, which if followed, would have left our POWs in Vietnam and we would have had to negotiate for their release. This up river crap is just another kerry whitewash. Watch Stolen Honor first and then ask yourselve if all 280 of those vets are lying and why would they? Besides, what they have to say is documented. As to Kerrys time in Vietnam, he didn't have a wound that caused him to miss time, both of his medals are disputed and it is a fact the he wrote the after action report that earned him his bronze star. He didn't spend Christmas in Cambodia and he lied about his purple hearts. He admits that he self inflicted( not intentionally) at least one of his so called wounds and he refuses to release all his records. Are we over reacting? No, but the left would like to put doubt in your mind.


15 posted on 10/23/2004 6:11:50 AM PDT by calex59
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To: LibertyBelt

I saw the producer of this film on the Sinclair broadcast. This man should be drug with a pickup till skinned.

He is the great American enemy.


16 posted on 10/23/2004 6:12:40 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: LibertyBelt
Kerry is a complete anti American scum bag...his Marxist father's son

That SOB went to the North Vietnamese communists...and made a deal for his cousin Forbes
who was in charge of Colliers Int'l...the commies gave Kerry's cousin a multi million dollar contract to rebuilt roads bridges and ports after the war..

All they asked in return was that Kerry return and tell the U.S. govt. that there were NO POWs or MIAs being held by the Vietnamese communists

The reason John F Kerry was selected to go to the commies was that he convinced the POW's and MIA's widows and orphans..friends and relatives that HE was their 'go to guy'...the guy that could best represent Vietnam Vets and their families...

He was the 'anti war' war hero... and a guy who would take no crap from a 'corrupt' govt....

Kerry was a very convincing salesman...but he was a con man....he duped everyone...and then sold the widows and orphans and their husbands, sons, brothers, fathers out to the commies

JOHN KERRY SOLD our POWs, MIA's, their widows and orphans DOWN THE RIVER

The ONLY reason Kerry is a considered by many poor fools a war hero..is because he cleverly put himself in the position of being in charge of writing up his own unit's reports...

He was then able to creatively 'take license with the truth'... John Kerry the fake...John Kerry the Liar...John Kerry the man with no honor.... created John F Kerry the War Hero...and he did it by cheating...all Americans..including his shipmates and all who served in Vietnam..but he also did it with the collusion of a few other dishonest officers and men..those who would support his lies of heroism...there weren't many...but the liberal press doesn't ask for much proof when it has one of their own to promote and sell..

Madison Ave was created by those who package trash and sell it as treasure...John F Kerry is a fitting example of such packaging

There is nothing more dangerous than a corrupt person in charge of anything..they do the most damage...

John Kerry is not a war hero...and in spite of what the Wizard of Oz said to the Scarecrow, The Tin Man and the Cowardly Lion...

You need more than a diploma to have a brain....You need more than a testimonial to have a heart...and you need more than a medal to have courage

You actually have to have 'DONE THE WORK'

In John F Kerry's world having done the work is not relevent...all you need is the paperwork and if you are in charge of the paperwork you can literaly 'write your own ticket'

It is not surprising that Karl Marx wrote that history is written by those in charge..and that truth is relative...a lesson the Kerry's have taken to heart...

John F Kerry found a way to write his own history...and the media to sell it to the rubes...

John F Kerry is not 'fit for command' but he has a reputation of being bought and paid for

IMO

17 posted on 10/23/2004 6:32:04 AM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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>> Kerry was inspired by the clarion call of President John F. Kennedy's 1961 inaugural address, "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

One thing JFK did for us was get us into the Vietnam war. Another thing he did was plot the overthrow of the South Vietnamese government, which left the country under chaotic military rule. Ngo Dinh Diem, the prior ruler (who was no prize, to be sure) was murdered the day after the coup. JFK was himself murdered three weeks later.

Yet one other Kennedy legacy -- he gave us Robert Strange McNamara as secretary of Defense: the man most responsible for mismanaging the way and ultimately handing the Communists the victory. There was a bloodbath in Southeast Asia afterwards, and that blood is on McNamara's hands, even as it stains the hands of Tom Hayden, Jane Fonda, John Kerry and other pimps peddling the Soviet line.

18 posted on 10/23/2004 6:35:28 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals believe every issue has two sides: theirs and the truth that must be silenced by lawsuits.)
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To: joesnuffy

You've painted the perfect picture of Kerry. This traitor should be stripped of his American citizenship and given a one-way ticket to his favorite namesake city - Hanoi. The fact that more than 10% of Americans are supporting him is amazing.

Kerry is a communist and his wife is a fascist. If these two get into the Whitehouse, they will use its power in an attempt to destroy private property, the right to bear arms and steal all of America's wealth, while enriching themselves and their Marxist friends.


19 posted on 10/23/2004 6:50:18 AM PDT by sergeantdave (ATTENTION - Republicans vote Tuesday. Democrats on Wednesday.)
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To: LibertyBelt; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; Bassfire; Smartass; potlatch

20 posted on 10/23/2004 6:50:37 AM PDT by Boazo
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