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Stolen Honor/Sinclair a Bust
10/22/2004 | steve reeves

Posted on 10/22/2004 5:38:21 PM PDT by kaferhaus

This production has not been well thought out, poorly edited and produced.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apowstory; documentary; kerry; sinclair; stolenhonor
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To: Real Cynic No More
Caved ? It's on isn't it ? How many copies of Stolen Honor do you think have been downloaded or bought so far ?

Kerry =Toast
262 posted on 10/22/2004 6:37:53 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Lady Jag

>>Do you know if that is the whole film or part? Thanks.<<

I just watched it. It's the whole film. And it's infuriating...the stress of watching it probably just shaved seven years off my life.


263 posted on 10/22/2004 6:38:26 PM PDT by SerpentDove ("Integrity, integrity, integrity." Even Kerry's dying mother knew he didn't have any.)
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To: SerpentDove

do you see anyplace on that website where that link to the film is? I don't see it, unless you have the complete URL, you can't get to it.


264 posted on 10/22/2004 6:38:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Howlin
Clinton was impeached--just not removed from office.

BTW, the Sinclair documentary was terrible. I gave it ten minutes then changed the channel.

265 posted on 10/22/2004 6:38:50 PM PDT by silent_jonny (I LOVE President Bush!--wanna fight about it?)
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To: wardaddy

84%. Knock it down to 80, I recall the spouse cheating thing but don't remember who it was.


266 posted on 10/22/2004 6:38:51 PM PDT by Rebelbase (President Jimmy Carter is a complete idiot .)
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To: ArmyBratCutie

Well the broadcast has aired regardless.
Darn shame they didn't play the whole "Stolen Honor."


267 posted on 10/22/2004 6:39:30 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: Howlin
If I may continue ...
This was worthy of Karl Rove.
The initial announcement ... Sinclair is going to b'cast a "one-sided hit piece in Kerry". (But Sinclair NEVER says it will broadcast the entire film!)
DEMS show their immense respect for the 1st ammendment ("Sue to keep the bastards quiet!)
Sinclair "clarifies" it is a news program ... meanwhile, there has been publicity even on the MSM
Fox produces a "balanced" news program which hoists Kerry on his own petard, makes a fool of Rather and CBS, shows the most damning segments of the film (which the public hasn't seen), "balances" it with pro-Kerry footage (which induces yawns as more of the same).

I call that brilliant ...
268 posted on 10/22/2004 6:39:50 PM PDT by NoBullZone (Attempting to dispel ... bull*hit)
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To: silent_jonny

Of course, you're right; the very mistakes I slam people about and I did it myself!

Thanks for the correction; don't want to look like a total fool.


269 posted on 10/22/2004 6:39:54 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

Howlin you're right on this.....
it was an awful piece of crap....accusing Pres Bush of hiding records on his service, but NEVER even questioning any of Kerrys or why he doesnt sign the 180 .. the girl that did the piece on the Ads, showed ALL of them in the background and each time a Swift Boat ad came up it had a big red LIARS on them.. even letting KErry defend himself from them......except for 5 minutes of the POWS and we STILL had to suffer thru that dayum "rescue" by Kerry and all the "quiet nice music" playing in the background....it didnt do anything but glorify Kerry.....


270 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:12 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: Real Cynic No More

By the way, I saw it for free on the internet, the movie is powerful, Kerry does Not look good in it.


271 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:23 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: ArmyBratCutie

I don't know if we are talking about the same things. I didn't watch the Sinclair version.

I watched the uncut version online.

If he is criticizing the uncut version, my insult stands. I thought it was forceful and made a strong point. Production qualities aside, the faces and the words of those Vets is all the film needs to get it's message across.

If you're talking about the Sinclair broadcast, I can't comment because it (thankfully as it appears) wasn't available in my area.

Before you go ripping the producers of this film, remember that they probably did it on a shoestring budget with a lot of volunteer hours from a lot of dedicated individuals that just want the truth out there.

I don't need to be bowled over, I just need to hear the truth, and I heard it tonight.


272 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:26 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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To: Howlin

Well, then why do I sound like THEM? And why don't I have a RIGHT to see it? (I really wasn't in the mood to be insulted right now)


273 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:35 PM PDT by VA40
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To: oceanview
Go to the FReeper post here, then click the link there.

CLICK HERE

274 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:35 PM PDT by SerpentDove ("Integrity, integrity, integrity." Even Kerry's dying mother knew he didn't have any.)
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To: VOA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1253812/posts
STOLEN HONOR: WATCH IT FREE ONLINE

(repeated, yet again, for effect)


275 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:42 PM PDT by VOA
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To: kaferhaus

It is no longer the issue of "Stolen Honor," it is the issue of the freedom that was "stolen" from the American people tonight. I am sincerely and honestly frightened and every American should be as well. We have just experienced the same censorship that happens every day in Communist controlled countries. They receive the same watered down and sanitized crap that we saw tonight. Our troops are dying in Baghdad so that Iraqis can have the freedoms that we just lost with this debacle. What is it going to take for us Great Americans to realize we are no longer free?


276 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:44 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: wardaddy
you're still middle aged and only a few years beyond me I think.

Bless you. :-)

277 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:58 PM PDT by Howlin (Bush has claimed two things which Democrats believe they own by right: the presidency & the future)
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To: Howlin

You can see my join date too, but I have faithfully read FR since 1999...just not bold enough or angry enough to post. Not everyone new to posting is really a Newbie. And Sinclair did a bait and switch!


278 posted on 10/22/2004 6:40:59 PM PDT by nclady
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To: John Lenin

Okay, so maybe it was incredible reverse psychology plan. That's it! Tell people you're going to tell them the truth, or at least open it up for discussion, then make a big deal about getting threats from the Dems, then make a really awful infomercial-type show that normally gets aired at 3:00 AM. Result? Everyone is horrified and sees how destructive the Dem machine can be to free speech (which I firmly believe it is).

Brilliant! Or at least, I hope that's the case.


279 posted on 10/22/2004 6:41:24 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 ("Hey, Terrorist!... Terrorize THIS!")
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To: Howlin
Hello,

Immediately after the program aired here in St. Louis, my brother called me with the same complaints that are flying here tonight. I said:

1) Sinclair said from the beginning that they would air only parts of the anti-Kerry movie.

2) The overwhelming impression I was left with is that the Left does not believe in the 1st Amendment, our free Speech, unless it is speech that they agree with.

3) Kerry is left being accused of extending the War and contributing to the torture of our brave servicemen, Bush is accused of (maybe) being absent for a few months.

4) If this had been obviously slanted to either side, it would have been a total disaster. This (IMHO) was a more fair and balanced piece than I have seen on Fox in recent memory.

#2 is the most important, any fair undecided voter out there must have picked up on the steady stream of this point. If they didn't, they were already in one camp or the other.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
280 posted on 10/22/2004 6:41:29 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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