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Evidence of WMDs in Iraq - Annonymous Freeper in Iraq
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | 22 Oct 2004 | Jeff Head

Posted on 10/21/2004 11:45:00 PM PDT by Jeff Head

No Chemical or other WMDs in Iraq?


Here are some pictures from our Annonymous Freeper in Iraq. Barrels of chemicals and other material he has observed in Iraq this year.





Note the picture of the Dimethyl sulfate barrel. This chemical was used as a chemical warfare agent in World War I. Its Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) gives the following information:
This compound is extremely hazardous because of its lack of warning properties and delayed biological effects. It may cause burns of the skin, eyes, and mucous membranes. Eye damage may be permanent. Effects may be delayed occurring hours after exposure. Skin permeation may occur in toxic amounts. Both the fumes and the liquid may produce severe irritation. Inhalation may cause irritation of the nose, throat and lungs. Death may occur from overexposure. Prolonged exposures may cause liver and kidney effects. DuPont controls this compound as a potential carcinogen.

Dimethyl sulfate vapor and liquid is extremely hazardous because of its deficient warning properties (NO ODOR THRESHOLD, LOOKS LIKE WATER, AND HAS ANALGESIC EFFECTS) and delayed biological effects. DMS hydrolyzes to methyl hydrogen sulfate and eventually sulfuric acid and methanol. Skin or eye contact with low concentrations of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause analgesia (numbness). Therefore, the corrosive action of Dimethyl Sulfate may not be readily detected.

Skin contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause skin burns or ulceration. Inital effects include itching, reddening of the skin followed hours later by severe blistering. Evidence suggests that skin permeation can occur in amounts capable of producing the effects of systemic toxicity. Eye contact with Dimethyl Sulfate may cause eye corrosion with corneal or conjunctival ulceration. Permanent eye damage may occur. Both the vapors and the liquid can cause severe irritation; upon slight vapor exposure the whites of the eyes turn red (bloodshot).

Ingestion of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause severe irritation of the mucous membranes of the mouth, throat and gastrointestinal tract.

Inhalation of Dimethyl Sulfate may cause irritation of the upper respiratory passages, angioneurotic edema of larynx with hoarseness, difficulty in swallowing; temporary lung irritation effects with productive cough, discomfort, difficulty breathing, chest pain, shortness of breath or cyanosis; or possibly modest initial symptoms, followed in hours by severe shortness of breath, requiring prompt medical attention. In severe poisonings, central nervous system effects may occur which include unconsciousness, cramps or convulsions, and paralysis. Fatality may result from gross overexposure.
Also note the barrel indicating it is some sort of chlorine. Chlorine Gas was also a chemical weapon used in World War I. Crates, barrels and boxes of other stuff as well. I believe the Kurds and the Iranians were familiar with some of this stuff.

No "trace' of WMDs in Iraq at all? You be the judge.


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To: Jeff Head

Sorry, dimethylsulfate is not a WMD (not nearly poisonous enough, not fast enough etc.). It is a common industrial chemical which happens to be poisonous (oral LD-50 440mg/kg in rats). The bad thing about dimethylsulfate is that it has low vapor pressure (thus it tends to persist), does not have much smell and has the capacity to be absorbed through undamaged skin.


121 posted on 10/22/2004 8:59:22 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Allegra

Welcome!


122 posted on 10/22/2004 9:10:38 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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To: Jeff Head

That it's there at all is a kicker.
According to Blix et al, it isn't there, those objects do not exist.
(And neither did the two chemical artillery shell IED's according to him, or the 30 some odd mustard gas shells and the.. *ugh!*)
Thanks for the pics and the info.


123 posted on 10/22/2004 9:19:31 AM PDT by Darksheare (Ganags of epopel shall stune your beeber with "UNNNGH!")
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To: GSlob

I don't think that the oral toxicity of DMS is any more rlelvant than the oral toxicity of sarin or phosgene. DMS seems to be properly classed as a blistering agent, but has potent inhilation hazards as well.

Ammonia is a common industrial chemical, too, but can be weaponized. Its oral toxicity is irrelevant as well since that is not the primary route of exposure. But is ammonia commonly called a WMD? No, it is a TIC, however, just a slight semantic technicality.


124 posted on 10/22/2004 9:47:53 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: hosepipe
So you are saying, DMS can be a vehicle to carry another agent into the body, such as a nerve agent?

I wonder what those vials are full of in the second picture down on the left. Those just may be the active ingredient.

Nothing like using a blistering agent to open the skin and then have a nerve agent hit the exposed areas

125 posted on 10/22/2004 10:14:18 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
[ So you are saying, DMS can be a vehicle to carry another agent into the body, such as a nerve agent? ]

No I didnt say that exactly but obviously you are not stupid..

126 posted on 10/22/2004 10:56:22 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

I don't think you'll find anyone using a blister agnet to help introduce a nervae agent. It is wastefule and probably less effective. Nerve agents don't have problems with skin absorption and there is no point in using blister agent to prep the skin first.


127 posted on 10/22/2004 11:14:06 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Al Anbar -- not just another bad neighborhood, it's a state of mind)
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To: Allegra

will freepmail you some contact info pretty soon for high-level people in the campaign and WH if you want to contact them. Tell them what you have seen and ask why it is not being released if you want.

Frankly, as CNS News reported recently, a lot of this is probably not even known by the Bush admin right now because of the bureauracy mess.


128 posted on 10/22/2004 11:16:26 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: elizabetty

It's labeled with the intended target of that particular barrel, but as you can see, Saddam is not a very good speller. ;)


129 posted on 10/22/2004 11:16:37 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: Jeff Head

BTW I wonder if this is going to be the October you-know-what.


130 posted on 10/22/2004 11:17:23 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (W stands for We dont need no stinkin global test)
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To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the ping.


131 posted on 10/22/2004 11:36:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (If 260 National Guard vets said Bush was an incompetent liar, the MSM would cover it. BiGTime)
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To: hosepipe
Well, I don't know anything about DMS, I do now the effects of agents not thier ingredients.

I was just trying to see if infact that DMS could/would be used to get any agent to be absorbed into the skin.

If it can, then I would be concerned that this is part of the WMD list.

132 posted on 10/22/2004 11:47:59 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: Jeff Head

There was something on the news several days ago about Mustard Gas having been used in Desert Storm. I didn't catch the all of the broadcast as I was on the phone at the time.

The Veterans Administration is now admitting that chemical agents were used against our troops.


133 posted on 10/22/2004 11:53:45 AM PDT by dixie sass (Texas - South Carolina on Steroids)
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff... Jeff... Jeff...

You got to remember that the delusional Socialist anti-way morons need it short and simple.

Remember the "Baby Milk Factory" sign? They believed that.

What you need in those pics is a "Mean and Nasty Weapons od Mass Destruction Stockpile" sign

134 posted on 10/22/2004 12:03:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: GSlob

It was used as a checmical weapon in World War I. It can be used as a weapon and has been in the past.


135 posted on 10/22/2004 1:07:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: dixie sass
The Veterans Administration is now admitting that chemical agents were used against our troops.

Had not heard this. Link or other way to get the info? IMHO, that's a huge piece of news.

136 posted on 10/22/2004 1:09:38 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Allegra

freepmail sent


137 posted on 10/22/2004 2:12:03 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

It can


138 posted on 10/22/2004 5:45:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Jeff Head
Not that anyone needs to go to bat for Jeff Head, but this freeper says that -

"If Jeff Head says he has your back, you can bank on it".

Thanks for all that you do Jeff.
139 posted on 10/22/2004 5:58:51 PM PDT by Issaquahking (U.N., greenies, etc. battling against the U.S. and Constitution one freedom at a time. Fight Back !)
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To: Issaquahking
Hey my friend...so good to hear from you. Thanks for the kind words. Those days in 2001 with you and Sean, myself, Jared and so many others at KLAMATH will never be forgotten.

God bless.

140 posted on 10/22/2004 7:14:40 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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