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Soldiers fear that they are 'sleeping with the enemy'
The Telegraph ^ | 18 Oct 2004 | Adrian Blomfield

Posted on 10/21/2004 8:44:31 PM PDT by BlackVeil

Adrian Blomfield discovers deep mistrust between American troops and Iraqi soldiers they are training.

If the US marines and Iraqi national guardsmen living at the Karmah military barracks near Fallujah talk at all, they speak through the bars of a small window.

The Americans peer out from the ammunition room, filled with weapons confiscated from suspected insurgents, trading banter with the Iraqis who stand on tiptoes in a huddle outside, their eyes squinting against the glare of the late summer sun.

Though there is laughter, things are not as they should be at Karmah barracks. "This is camp poison," whispers a marine. "Watch your back."

The sinister atmosphere at Karmah barracks is not difficult to understand. The marines are convinced that many, perhaps most, of the 140 members of the Iraqi National Guard (ING) they share the camp with are double agents working on behalf of the insurgents holding Fallujah.

In the past week alone the marines have arrested five of the guardsmen, including their commanding officer, Capt Ali Mohammed Jasim.

It is just one example that a Vietnam-era experiment Washington resurrected to form the backbone of an offensive planned by the end of the year to retake Fallujah, the crucible of Iraq's insurgency, is going disastrously wrong. Under the Combined Action Platoon (CAP) scheme, US soldiers train Iraqi guardsmen, live with them in the same barracks and venture out on joint patrols, all steps towards a longer-term objective of the withdrawal of American troops.

The plan was first developed in Vietnam, where US marines cohabited with local militias to defend villages from Vietcong raids. At the same time the marines trained the militiamen with the intention of turning them into an effective fighting force, but they were too ill-equipped and underpaid for the plan to have much success.

Mark II of the CAP programme seems to be running into even greater problems. Across the country American troops work with their poorly equipped Iraqi colleagues in an atmosphere soured by distrust - especially in provinces where the insurgency is at its most intense. With Fallujah under insurgent control, US marines such as those at Karmah are trying to secure the surrounding al-Anbar province.

Their efforts have been blighted by remotely detonated mines, known as improvised explosive devices (IEDs), targeting the patrols that nervously venture out on to the lawless streets of towns that have become insurgent havens. Since June, some platoons have seen up to half their men wounded in action. Eighty marines have been killed in the province.

The marines are convinced that the ING knows where many of the IEDs are planted, and even say they have caught guardsmen in the act of laying mines. When joint patrols come under attack, they say, the ING simply refuses to fight. As the relationship worsens, more and more ING are simply refusing to turn up at work. Of the 140 guardsmen based at Karmah an average of between 40 and 60 turn up on any given day. At other CAP barracks, that number is sometimes as low as two. Since the arrest of the Karmah ING captain, the rapport has become even more sullen. The marines sit under canvas shelters, convinced that the guardsmen lurking in their dormitories are traitors and murderers.

"We know when this place is about to come under mortar attack because the ING suddenly disappear," one marine said, staring across the dusty compound at two guardsmen smoking on a wooden bench. "We are supposed to be fighting together, instead we are sleeping with the enemy."

In their bare dormitory angry guardsmen queue up to tell their side of the story, accusing the marines of arrogance, bullying and a cavalier disregard for civilian life. Twelve guardsmen spoke to The Daily Telegraph, but all refused to identify themselves, saying they feared reprisals from the marines. "The first mistake they make is that when they are attacked they don't just fire at the terrorists, they shoot everywhere," one said.

Other guardsmen alleged that the marines publicly humiliated and even physically assaulted them for minor misdemeanours. Another said he, like many others, had been arrested on suspicion of involvement in planting an IED. He said he was held for 14 days in a tiny "cooler" and then tortured during interrogation.

"They would make me drink water and drink water and then kick me in the stomach till I vomited," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ing; iraq

1 posted on 10/21/2004 8:44:32 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

This story has a familiar ring to it. Almost sounds like another place and time where the "Friendlies" would be on the side of our troops during the daytime and at night become the enemy.


2 posted on 10/21/2004 8:52:39 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: BlackVeil

More unsourced bullsqueeze from British 5th Columnist "news"papers.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 8:53:19 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: BlackVeil

There was a similar story about Marines and Iraqis working together that was rather upbeat, with one Marine taking a "bury the hatchet" attitude about working with former enemies. No suprise the Telegraph would take the opposite approach.


4 posted on 10/21/2004 8:54:05 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: BlackVeil
"We know when this place is about to come under mortar attack because the ING suddenly disappear," one marine said

Well, at least the ING is good for something, then. They used ducks and such in World War II to detect incoming attacks.

5 posted on 10/21/2004 8:54:20 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: BlackVeil
The Word HorseSh@* come to mind....

Marines don't point and spray...Arab dumbasses do...The media always interviews both sides assuming, I guess, that the Arabs are going to be truthful...let me see...Abdul, the marines say that they don't trust you, would you like to comment, Why yes, they shouldn't trust me, I am al Queda and will kill the infidels...Can't see that happening, you think.

How do you clear a vipers nest, you kill every single viper.....
6 posted on 10/21/2004 8:55:24 PM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: BlackVeil

"They would make me drink water and drink water and then kick me in the stomach till I vomited," he said.

Our Vietnam vets and former POW's are playing the world's smallest violin right now.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 8:56:53 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: DTogo; clee1

The Telegraph is a conservative British newspaper. Although one might not agree with the article, I don't find it unsourced. It is by a named journalist, he says what camp he visited, and the details about ING officer arrested are very exact, with names given.

I have read other stuff about ING staff being arrested, etc. A recent article alleges that they are a big source of funding for the insurgents.


8 posted on 10/21/2004 9:02:49 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

Too bad you couldn't force the suspected bad guys to ride along on patrols and see if they could serve as a warning for IUDs.

Sky


9 posted on 10/21/2004 9:13:54 PM PDT by skyman
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To: skyman

Oops.....let's try that again.

I meant IED's.

I don't they they could make good IUD's or maybe they would :-)


10 posted on 10/21/2004 9:20:00 PM PDT by skyman
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To: BlackVeil

assuming this is true, we seem to be doing a good job of weeding out the spies. our forces are the best in the world. liberals will look at any bump in the road to say that the road was not worth taking.


11 posted on 10/21/2004 9:22:59 PM PDT by mlocher
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To: Prime Choice

I had to ping you on this. Been doin' some thinking...


12 posted on 10/21/2004 9:41:03 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: BlackVeil

This is a disturbing article. The Telegraph doesn't usually write stories with a "gotcha' agenda. I'll be happy when declare victory and get out. I don't have the feeling the ING is really trying to help our soldiers or fight for their own security. At best, they are ambivalent because, bottom line, Islam trumps everything including freedom and democracy. But at least the president has offered them a chance. If they squander the opportunity, so be it.


13 posted on 10/21/2004 10:45:47 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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