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Hunting for votes? Kerry in Youngstown, OH
Youngstown Vindicator ^ | 10/21/04 | By DAVID SKOLNICK

Posted on 10/21/2004 8:29:31 AM PDT by cyn

Bush supporters say the Democratic challenger is no friend to hunters.

YOUNGSTOWN — John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, went hunting today in Poland Township in an effort to show sportsmen and hunters that he is one of them.

But officials with Ohio Sportsmen for Bush and the National Rifle Association, who recently endorsed President Bush's re-election bid, aren't buying it.

"These guys are in fits about this because John Kerry has credibility as a sportsman and a hunter," said Brendon Cull, spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Coordinated Campaign. "For them to say he's not a sportsman and a hunter is wrong. He believes in the Second Amendment. This event is completely in line with who he is as a person."

Kerry has owned a firearm since he was 12, and "is genuinely excited to go hunting because he likes to do it," Cull said.

Kerry bought an Ohio hunting license Saturday in Pike County and said he planned to hunt in the state.

Hunting geese

Kerry hunted geese today at the Molnar farm in Springfield Township with U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland of Lisbon, D-6th, Cull said.

Others in the hunting party were Neal Brady of Hocking County and Bob Bellino of Springfield Township, a board member of the local Ducks Unlimited organization. Afterward, Kerry was to meet with members of Sportsmen for Kerry.

The gun he used was a Beretta 12-gauge shotgun lent to him by Bellino.

The event was closed to the public and most of the press. The hunt's location was disclosed to the press this morning at the Holiday Inn in Boardman, where Kerry spent Wednesday night.

About 30 members of Ohio Sportsmen for Bush had a press conference Wednesday at the Austintown Sports Center, a business that sells guns and ammunition, to say the president is the best candidate to represent sportsmen.

"President Bush is not ashamed to be a sportsman," said Mike Budzik, the state chairman of Bush's sportsmen organization and a former Ohio Department of Natural Resources' Division of Wildlife. "He's been a hunter and an angler."

Those at the press conference questioned Kerry's commitment to hunters and protecting the Second Amendment, even though the Democratic presidential nominee insists he is one of them and supports the right to bear arms.

"I like my guns, and I think Kerry has been back-stabbing us," said Shirley Williams of Hubbard, a 71-year-old gun collector and member of the Vienna Fish and Game Club. "He hasn't helped us for 20 years" in the U.S. Senate.

Experienced?

Those at the press conference questioned whether Kerry knows much about hunting. When asked by The Vindicator if they saw mistakes made by Kerry during a trap shooting event last month in Portage County, those at the press conference pointed to three errors.

They said Kerry pointed his loaded shotgun in the direction of a person nearby, an act forbidden among hunters, and he didn't wear safety glasses or ear plugs, items standard when trap shooting. "You can't fool a sportsman," Budzik said.

There are about 350,000 to 500,000 hunters and about 1 million anglers in Ohio, although some people are in both categories, Budzik said.

The NRA was to have a press conference today in Howland to discuss Kerry's position on guns and hunting. Scheduled to attend were Wayne LaPierre, the NRA executive vice president, and Chris Cox, chief lobbyist .

The two had a press conference in Howland last week to endorse Bush and announce the group's plan to spend $20 million in advertising to get the president re-elected.

Youngstown Mayor George M. McKelvey, a Democrat supporting Bush, said Kerry's hunting trip is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

"Do they really believe they'll fool some Ohio and national sportsmen that Senator Kerry took time out from his presidential campaign to go duck hunting?" McKelvey said.

McKelvey also criticized Kerry on the Rush Limbaugh radio show Tuesday about the hunt.

Political experts say Ohio is a key — if not the key — battleground state in the Nov. 2 presidential election. Most polls of likely Ohio voters have the race a statistical dead heat.

skolnick@vindy.com



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To: cyn
Most importantly, Kerry said he shot a goose, but was too lazy to carry it out. I've never been hunting with anyone too lazy to carry what he kills.

I guess most people don't go hunting with their butler. I'm sure the butler also provided Kerry with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches with the crust cut off, as is typical among hunters.

21 posted on 10/21/2004 8:53:49 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11; maggiefluffs
And look at his reason: '"I'm too lazy," Kerry joked. "I'm still giddy over the Red Sox. It was hard to focus."'

Let's put that together with his comment on LKL about the WTC bombings:

"And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon.

-- AND --

'"I'm too lazy," Kerry joked. "I'm still giddy over the Red Sox. It was hard to focus."'

Seems to me a pattern of admitted incompetence and impotence. Thanks for maggiefluffs for finding these comments on the other thread. -- Kerry goes a-huntin' for votes

22 posted on 10/21/2004 9:01:41 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: WoodstockCat; conservativepoet
right. furthermore, and this is where I'm scratching my head, this is just such a low-yield publicity stunt, not like he's shoring up party faithful at a rally here. truly another krazy kerry kampaign kaper.

then there's teresa's latest bush ad (her Laura comment is apparently getting wide play in Michigan)

23 posted on 10/21/2004 9:06:12 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: cyn
They said Kerry pointed his loaded shotgun in the direction of a person nearby

I guess Kerry was having a "flash-back" to Viet Nam.

24 posted on 10/21/2004 9:06:40 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Kerry is the missing link!)
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To: cyn

"I'm not really a hunter, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn, last night."

Kerry commenting to the press after the hunt. /sarcasm


25 posted on 10/21/2004 9:06:44 AM PDT by MKM1960
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To: rocklobster11
Most importantly, Kerry said he shot a goose, but was too lazy to carry it out. I've never been hunting with anyone too lazy to carry what he kills.

Ready for laugh....
I just heard (again) on FNC that Kerry said he didn't carry his two geese (limit) because ..... (drum roll)...

"He was too giddy from the Red Sox winning."

Giddy. He was frigging GIDDY! I don't want MY POTUS be be "giddy" - ever!
26 posted on 10/21/2004 9:07:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

lol. now Rush is starting out w/this, "He looks like elmer fudd".


27 posted on 10/21/2004 9:07:23 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: MKM1960

ROFL. I love those ads, and that would be a great addition.


28 posted on 10/21/2004 9:08:49 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: Condor51

not just giddy!

lazy,
giddy,
AND hard to focus


29 posted on 10/21/2004 9:10:40 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

He'll probably endorse his cellmate so he can get a free pack of smokes.


30 posted on 10/21/2004 9:11:51 AM PDT by RockinRight (Bush's rallies look like World Series games. Kerry's rallies look like Little League games.)
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To: cyn

Kerry is LIVING in Ohio. He is obviously behind and KNOWS he must win this state to stand a chance.


31 posted on 10/21/2004 9:13:38 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: Condor51; Darksheare; Constitution Day
Wanna hear something uncanny?

Since the Red Sox won - Massachusetts

If the Astro's Win - Texas

See the similarities in two campaigns?

32 posted on 10/21/2004 9:13:53 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Kerry is the missing link!)
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To: Eaker; humblegunner
"Kerry pointed his loaded shotgun in the direction of a person nearby" ping

I wonder if he had shot somebody, how that would help his poll ratings.

I also wonder what the animal-rights activist think about hunting only for the recognition. Does anybody think he actually ate what he shot?
33 posted on 10/21/2004 9:15:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: happydogdesign

Kerry hunting reminds of the ONE time that Bill Clinton went hunting early in his first term. These people aren't outdoorsmen. Kerry just make a bigger fool of himself by pretending to be an outdoorsman. Real outdoorsmen know this.


34 posted on 10/21/2004 9:16:01 AM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Zavien Doombringer

I question the timing of this series.


35 posted on 10/21/2004 9:17:27 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: nikos1121; OXENinFLA; ALOHA RONNIE; Critter; hammerdown
thing is, that's not just an act "forbidden among hunters", but is basic common sense and safety AND respect for those around you.

Guess he didn't have to take that Hunter Training Course that is required for the Ohio license???

And no wonder they wanted him out of Viet Nam!

So now we have:

lazy,
giddy,
hard to focus
ignorant of basic safety principles
AND oblivious of the wellbeing of those around him

36 posted on 10/21/2004 9:18:13 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: Constitution Day

I hear Kerry has a plan...


37 posted on 10/21/2004 9:19:23 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Kerry is the missing link!)
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To: cyn
Hunting for votes? Kerry in Youngstown, OH

"PULL!"

*Sproing!!*

*K'POW!!*

*Pock!!*

"I got it! Another 5 oveseas military votes shot to heck! Ha-ha!"

38 posted on 10/21/2004 9:40:45 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Did you know he was in VietNam?


39 posted on 10/21/2004 9:41:07 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Teacher317

Where the heck is PETA? If George W. were hunting like Kerry, PETA would be going nuts!


40 posted on 10/21/2004 9:42:17 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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