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Hunting for votes? Kerry in Youngstown, OH
Youngstown Vindicator ^ | 10/21/04 | By DAVID SKOLNICK

Posted on 10/21/2004 8:29:31 AM PDT by cyn

Bush supporters say the Democratic challenger is no friend to hunters.

YOUNGSTOWN — John Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, went hunting today in Poland Township in an effort to show sportsmen and hunters that he is one of them.

But officials with Ohio Sportsmen for Bush and the National Rifle Association, who recently endorsed President Bush's re-election bid, aren't buying it.

"These guys are in fits about this because John Kerry has credibility as a sportsman and a hunter," said Brendon Cull, spokesman for the Ohio Democratic Coordinated Campaign. "For them to say he's not a sportsman and a hunter is wrong. He believes in the Second Amendment. This event is completely in line with who he is as a person."

Kerry has owned a firearm since he was 12, and "is genuinely excited to go hunting because he likes to do it," Cull said.

Kerry bought an Ohio hunting license Saturday in Pike County and said he planned to hunt in the state.

Hunting geese

Kerry hunted geese today at the Molnar farm in Springfield Township with U.S. Rep. Ted Strickland of Lisbon, D-6th, Cull said.

Others in the hunting party were Neal Brady of Hocking County and Bob Bellino of Springfield Township, a board member of the local Ducks Unlimited organization. Afterward, Kerry was to meet with members of Sportsmen for Kerry.

The gun he used was a Beretta 12-gauge shotgun lent to him by Bellino.

The event was closed to the public and most of the press. The hunt's location was disclosed to the press this morning at the Holiday Inn in Boardman, where Kerry spent Wednesday night.

About 30 members of Ohio Sportsmen for Bush had a press conference Wednesday at the Austintown Sports Center, a business that sells guns and ammunition, to say the president is the best candidate to represent sportsmen.

"President Bush is not ashamed to be a sportsman," said Mike Budzik, the state chairman of Bush's sportsmen organization and a former Ohio Department of Natural Resources' Division of Wildlife. "He's been a hunter and an angler."

Those at the press conference questioned Kerry's commitment to hunters and protecting the Second Amendment, even though the Democratic presidential nominee insists he is one of them and supports the right to bear arms.

"I like my guns, and I think Kerry has been back-stabbing us," said Shirley Williams of Hubbard, a 71-year-old gun collector and member of the Vienna Fish and Game Club. "He hasn't helped us for 20 years" in the U.S. Senate.

Experienced?

Those at the press conference questioned whether Kerry knows much about hunting. When asked by The Vindicator if they saw mistakes made by Kerry during a trap shooting event last month in Portage County, those at the press conference pointed to three errors.

They said Kerry pointed his loaded shotgun in the direction of a person nearby, an act forbidden among hunters, and he didn't wear safety glasses or ear plugs, items standard when trap shooting. "You can't fool a sportsman," Budzik said.

There are about 350,000 to 500,000 hunters and about 1 million anglers in Ohio, although some people are in both categories, Budzik said.

The NRA was to have a press conference today in Howland to discuss Kerry's position on guns and hunting. Scheduled to attend were Wayne LaPierre, the NRA executive vice president, and Chris Cox, chief lobbyist .

The two had a press conference in Howland last week to endorse Bush and announce the group's plan to spend $20 million in advertising to get the president re-elected.

Youngstown Mayor George M. McKelvey, a Democrat supporting Bush, said Kerry's hunting trip is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

"Do they really believe they'll fool some Ohio and national sportsmen that Senator Kerry took time out from his presidential campaign to go duck hunting?" McKelvey said.

McKelvey also criticized Kerry on the Rush Limbaugh radio show Tuesday about the hunt.

Political experts say Ohio is a key — if not the key — battleground state in the Nov. 2 presidential election. Most polls of likely Ohio voters have the race a statistical dead heat.

skolnick@vindy.com



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shameless pandering.

Compare kerry's shallow posturing with this video, which makes it clear what this election is all about:

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Please pass that video link to everyone you know in every way you can.

1 posted on 10/21/2004 8:29:31 AM PDT by cyn
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To: cyn

Will Trafficant endorse Kerry?


2 posted on 10/21/2004 8:30:57 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (Take the first step in the war on terror - defeat John Kerry)
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To: cyn


Kerry got this many votes from hunting today... -minus 19.

What a dork. Who does he think he's kidding.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 8:31:51 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: cyn

Youngstown, OH should already be in the bag for Kerry, he's in serious trouble trying to define himself to the voters this late in the campaign.


4 posted on 10/21/2004 8:32:34 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: ClintonBeGone

I hope Traficant has more class than that!


5 posted on 10/21/2004 8:33:01 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: cyn
>>Youngstown Mayor George M. McKelvey, a Democrat supporting Bush, said Kerry's hunting trip is nothing more than a publicity stunt. "Do they really believe they'll fool some Ohio and national sportsmen that Senator Kerry took time out from his presidential campaign to go duck hunting?" McKelvey said.

Yes...it's all just campaigning. Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting for voters. Heh heh heh heh!


6 posted on 10/21/2004 8:33:08 AM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: cyn

Also of note:

Youngstown Mayor George McKelvey has come out in support of GWB. He was on O'R last night, will see if can find link. He speaks out quite eloquently and answers all those "yes, but . . ." questions effectively.

Not only does he "get it", but he's another intellectually honest democrat who is willing to vote his convictions for strength in the face of a growing threat.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 8:33:13 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: cyn

Is there a betting pool on which body part Kerry is most likely to shoot?

I think if he were hunting in an area where I was I'd be too concerned watching where he was recklessly pointing his gun.

Wonder if anybody has mentioned to him that the second amendment isn't about goose hunting?


8 posted on 10/21/2004 8:33:43 AM PDT by Wneighbor
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To: cyn

9 posted on 10/21/2004 8:34:23 AM PDT by happydogdesign
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To: Bommer

Thanks again, Bommer. I dedicate this thread to your touching tribute to truth.


10 posted on 10/21/2004 8:35:43 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: All

Youngstown Mayor George M. McKelvey, a Democrat supporting Bush, said Kerry's hunting trip is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

As Dr. Phil like to quote: That dog don't hunt! NOT fooled Kerry! What a con artist!!


11 posted on 10/21/2004 8:36:00 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (Native American pleading for Truth!)
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To: cyn

I'd like to know when the last Kerry went hunting before this.


12 posted on 10/21/2004 8:37:26 AM PDT by Protagoras (When your circus has a big tent, you can fit a lot of clowns inside)
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To: MadelineZapeezda

"Experienced?

Those at the press conference questioned whether Kerry knows much about hunting. When asked by The Vindicator if they saw mistakes made by Kerry during a trap shooting event last month in Portage County, those at the press conference pointed to three errors.

They said Kerry pointed his loaded shotgun in the direction of a person nearby, an act forbidden among hunters, and he didn't wear safety glasses or ear plugs, items standard when trap shooting. "You can't fool a sportsman," Budzik said."

This statement says it all. In line with "Crawling on his belly to stalk white tailed deer with his trusty 12 gauge."

nick


13 posted on 10/21/2004 8:37:50 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: Josh in PA

There are few people liberals hate more than hunters.
This will cost him big time, especially with young women.
He will not pick up any votes because gun owners and supporters of the 2nd amendment know he is a phony.


14 posted on 10/21/2004 8:38:51 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: raccoonradio; Josh in PA
how about this little nugget of truth?

"This event is completely in line with who he is as a person."

LOL. You bet it is.

15 posted on 10/21/2004 8:38:57 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: cyn

bump


16 posted on 10/21/2004 8:42:02 AM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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To: cyn

The only thing Kerry ever hunted successfully are wealthy heiresses


17 posted on 10/21/2004 8:45:05 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: Wil H

As they say in East Texas - hutin' two legged "dear"!


18 posted on 10/21/2004 8:45:53 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Wneighbor; happydogdesign; atomicpossum

foot. I say foot.


19 posted on 10/21/2004 8:48:54 AM PDT by cyn (Prayers always for Terri Schiavo and her family.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
This dawg don't hunt!


20 posted on 10/21/2004 8:49:04 AM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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