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More Ohio counties have more registrations than eligable population
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Posted on 10/20/2004 12:58:25 PM PDT by z3n

It has previously received media attention that Franklin country had this alarming issue, but I just heard a report on the radio that more Ohio counties have as many, or more registered voters as census the projected population. Geauga county was cited specifically in this report.

Could this posibly be attributed to some amazing new level of voter interest? I'm starting to become extremely skeptical!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: fraud; napalminthemorning; neohio; rats; stealing; votefraud
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To: z3n

Ask yourself one question: The last time you moved, did you bother to notify the registrar of voters that you no longer lived in that voting district? The overage is probably due to people who moved or died and whose names remain on the roles because no one notified the registrar.


83 posted on 10/20/2004 2:57:01 PM PDT by Brandon
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To: pctech

I see Republican Complaining and hand wringing but no real action.

Once the Democrats vote 2 or 3 times and steal the election for Kerry, it will be too late to really do anything about it. How are you going to find investigate and reverse 50,000+ illegal voters. You going to have the Democratic Mayor and local Government officials helping you? The 50,000 Kerry Lawyers are there for the xpress purpose of hindering any attempt to root out voter fraud by the Democrats.
The Republican strategy is to wish and hope they win by a big enough margin to make voter fraud irrelevent but I think they totally underestimated the scale of the fraud.
The Dems are not plannning to add thousands of illegal votes they are planning on adding hundred of thousands of illegal votes.
The gutless RINOs are letting them do it, without even a fight.


84 posted on 10/20/2004 2:58:46 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen
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To: no dems
I've got to believe that Karl Rove and the GOP lawyers are on top of this. Whaddya think?

"Gosh! 'GOP' and 'on top of' in the same sentence"; that's what I think.

85 posted on 10/20/2004 2:59:22 PM PDT by Grut
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To: wjcsux

I stand corrected. I only hope when I am dead, I still vote straight Republican.


86 posted on 10/20/2004 3:05:05 PM PDT by rjmeagle (Bush in 2004, Guiliani in 2008!!! Conservatism Rules!!! God and Family!!!)
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To: ILuvW

I believe Sec of State Blackwell has filed an appeal


87 posted on 10/20/2004 3:07:33 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: ILuvW
Blackwell To Appeal Judge's Ruling On Provisional Voting
88 posted on 10/20/2004 3:10:14 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: Tuxedo
The last 2 elections are also listed so they can compare signatures if you vote regularly.

Like the democrat poll worker will actually check the signature on a registered-Democrat voter.

89 posted on 10/20/2004 3:14:01 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: b4its2late

HA! If I ruled Ohio, b4, if I ruled Ohio....


90 posted on 10/20/2004 3:14:13 PM PDT by Molly Pitcher (Global test for OUR national security??? H$## NO!)
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To: FreedomCalls

In our county we have to have 1 Republican and 1 dem at each table for verification


91 posted on 10/20/2004 3:14:55 PM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: z3n

This does not sound right. Some I bet are dead voters. Some probably don't even exist.


92 posted on 10/20/2004 3:16:38 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: carrier-aviator; All
I hate to disagree with you BUT it won't be fraud, it will be complacency.
93 posted on 10/20/2004 3:17:45 PM PDT by olde north church (Charity begins with "C" if it's the first word in the sentence, "c" if it's not.)
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To: Jonah Johansen

I see the same thing. I feel so helpless but what can I do? If this fraud progresses and we find Kerry in the White House come Jan 2005 I don't know what we can do. I'm praying it doesn't come down to that but what else can we do?


94 posted on 10/20/2004 3:18:24 PM PDT by pctech
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To: Tuxedo
No ID is required to vote in Ohio.

Excuse me for being blunt, but why the f*** not?

95 posted on 10/20/2004 3:20:16 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: Ichneumon

Record Missouri voter roll likely inflated



By David A. Lieb ~ The Associated Press

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- A record 4.2 million Missourians are registered to vote on Nov. 2 -- a figure so high that election officials acknowledge it likely is inflated by a large number of people who are registered more than once.

Statewide, there were fewer than 4.3 million voting-age residents, according to the most recent Census Bureau estimate. If Missouri's voter rolls were accurate, that would mean 98 percent of adults are registered to vote.

"We've wondered if there's anyone left in the state who is not registered," Betsy Byers, an election director for Secretary of State Matt Blunt, said Tuesday.

"It's inflated somewhat," she added, "but I don't know what to tell you as far as how much."

The inflated voter rolls could allow some people to illegally vote twice, Byers acknowledged. Yet a more likely outcome, she said, is that many of the duplicative registrants will vote only once or not at all -- and Missouri's voter turnout will appear lower than reality.

Missouri has no way of automatically updating its central voter registration database when a resident moves to another city, county or state. And under federal law, it can take more than four years to remove a voter whose address cannot be verified.

The result is that in 36 of Missouri's 114 counties, and in the city of St. Louis, more voters are registered for the November elections than there were residents age 18 and older in the July 2003 Census Bureau estimate, according to an analysis by The Associated Press.

At the top of that list is St. Louis -- a problem spot in the 2000 elections -- which has an estimated 246,320 voting-age residents yet has 281,316 registered voters. The city reports 65,993 of those voters as inactive, meaning their addresses haven't been verified and they haven't voted recently. Yet by virtue of remaining on the rolls, they still could vote in the November elections.

Byers said voter rolls may also be inflated in other counties because, like St. Louis, they have not followed procedures for removing people whose addresses cannot be verified.

Under federal law, local election authorities are supposed to periodically mail address verification cards to registered voters. If they are returned as undeliverable, then election officials are to mail a second notification that can be forwarded to a new address. If election officials still don't hear from the voters -- and they don't vote in the next two general elections -- then those voters can be removed from the rolls.

In St. Louis, election officials in past years didn't properly notify people that they could be dropped from the rolls if they didn't verify their addresses. As a result, the city's voter rolls still have people whose addresses haven't been verified and who haven't voted since 1992, said Jim O'Toole, the city's Democratic election director.

O'Toole said he expects about 40,000 people to be dropped from the city's voter rolls after the November election because two general elections will have passed since properly worded notifications were mailed.

Byers estimated that "a couple hundred thousand people" statewide could be removed from voter rolls after the November election for the same reason.

Statewide, 561,969 voters are classified as inactive.

In the November 2000 elections, some potential voters were turned away in St. Louis because their names were on inactive lists and couldn't quickly be verified. Because of long lines, a judge ordered the city's polls to stay open past closing time but was later reversed by an appellate court.

This year's statewide registration of 4,206,423 voters is up 9 percent from the 2000 elections. Because of a dip in voter rolls as names were removed, this year's total is up 14 percent from November 2002 and up 20 percent from the Aug. 3 party primaries.

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96 posted on 10/20/2004 3:26:36 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: z3n; rdb3

documentation, please.

I cannot in good faith redistribute information without some way of fact-checking.

(nevertheless - yo! rdb3! yet more...)


97 posted on 10/20/2004 3:37:53 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: Tuxedo

Where I live you must show a picture ID with your name on it and your voter's registration card. But I guess if deception is in your heart you could get around that too.


98 posted on 10/20/2004 3:37:55 PM PDT by Laffalot
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To: Laffalot

Not in the Cleveland area. No ID required.


99 posted on 10/20/2004 3:42:50 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Vote early... vote often... vote Republican.)
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To: z3n

Hey, BE QUIET!!!! Many of these registered voters were heroes in the Civil War. Don't make fun of them!!!


100 posted on 10/20/2004 3:45:30 PM PDT by Screaming Eagle Red Leg
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