Posted on 10/20/2004 12:58:25 PM PDT by z3n
It has previously received media attention that Franklin country had this alarming issue, but I just heard a report on the radio that more Ohio counties have as many, or more registered voters as census the projected population. Geauga county was cited specifically in this report.
Could this posibly be attributed to some amazing new level of voter interest? I'm starting to become extremely skeptical!
When we first arrived in Washington, we went to get our new driver's licenses and were asked if we wanted to register to vote (motor fraud!). All we had to do was sign our names 3 times each. No question whatsoever about citizenship. We have a relatively large Mexican population here, most not being citizens. I wonder how many opted to sign their names three times.
Right. And that will make "voter turnout" appear even lower, spurring further efforts to get people interested in elections. Ironically, all of these dollars-for-registration projects and outright fraud are exactly what is making people lose faith in the process and find other things to do besides become informed and vote.
Absentee ballots must be for a valid reason.
No unofficial groups registering people to vote. No paying people to get registrations.
John Fund's idea: a FREE photo ID to anyone who wants one, so that there can be no accusations of disenfranchisement of the poor, and that ID or another photo ID must be presented to vote.
No provisional ballots outside your own precinct, and sworn statements that you have registered should be required even in your own precinct.
The voter rolls must be cleared of those who have moved or died.
Cooperation between states to clear duplicate registrations.
And more.
Not good news considering Kerry is also leading in PA.
Agreed. Absentee ballots used to be only if you were going to be ABSENT on election day. Now they are for damn lazy people. And what is this "early" voting garbage! Hey, let's shoot ourselves in the foot, why don't we!
Hey, if someone doesn’t support their community with property taxes, then they have no business voting to raise mine. And if someone is stupid, I don’t want them having a say in choosing our leaders. If someone can’t identify Washington as the 1st president, I don’t want them choosing the next one.
Where there are Dems there is fraud.
This statement exposes the biggest flaw in your position: They don't need to try to keep it secret. The Boards of Supervisors of most counties are full of union shills that will have to keep their mouths shut.
I don't know if every precinct is the same. In mine, you have to sign next to your signature on record. Obviously, anything other than a good forgery will be caught, and there ain't no Britney Spears or Janet Jackson's registered.
It's like the old Soviet Union where factory managers listed their plant's "output" and it was always huge---then they had a real set of books that showed the non-existent production. But EVERY organization has "names" like this. For years, our history department had 150 "majors" who just didn't exist. We just never purged the rolls. Likewise, I've been a member of churches that had huge "memberships," but had tiny congregations. Some of it is fraud, some is just poor purging techniques by the state and county officers.
Despite what everyone here thinks, FRAUD AIN'T EASY.
Won't work. Happens every election, and the crap just gets thrown out. We need to get a little less hysterical around here. Much of the Dems posturing is mere threats intended to keep us from challenging people or inspecting ballots. Not gonna work.
I agree. There will be a few inner city precincts where the Dems can pull their crap, but the same poll workers have run these elections for years, and they are not ABOUT to be "used" by some dummy DUers in a fraud scheme. This is MUCH, MUCH tougher than people realize---and I think far tougher than the Dems realize. They'll gain a few hundred, maybe a few thousand "votes," but it ain't gonna overcome a 120,000 Bush lead.
Oh I agree, with both statements! I think all the publicity about claiming intimidation, Kerry claiming victory, voter registration fraud...all that stuff is going to backfire. BIG TIME. The hysteria around here is getting pretty annoying. The phrase "I'm worried about fraud" has been post 29 gazillion times and what does it change? NOTHING! Get off the computer and get out and work people!!!
I couldn't agree with what you are saying more.
We are witnessing an unprecdented attempt to destroy our election process and throw the nation into anarchy and chaos.
If you think 2000 was bad, I can only imagine what is in store in 2 weeks.
"I believe Sec of State Blackwell has filed an appeal"
Thanks for the quick reply and the post. I hope he can get this reversed. It would be one less area of voter fraud anyway (then we'd only have some 15 others to deal with - damn Dems).
But but ...you are disenfranchising the pets we care for. They can vote too, can't they? And our immigrant maid as well? /s
More fraud. When will the dims learn?
I live in Geauga County and it is extremely Republican. When you go to the polls,however, no one asks for ID. They ask your name, look it up in the book and you need to sign the book. They have your signature in this book from the last election.
SOURCE: http://www.conservativeaction.org/resources.php3?nameid=votefraud
How Democrats Steal Elections - Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud
1. Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).
2. Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).
3. Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)
4. Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).
5. Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts - including rapists and murderers -- voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)
6. Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).
7. Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).
8. Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).
9. Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).
10. Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98)."
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WE MUST FIGHT VOTE FRAUD!
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