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Rush Limbaugh: The Most Amazing John Kerry Quote
The Washington Post | October 19, 2004 | Peach

Posted on 10/20/2004 9:13:15 AM PDT by Peach

Edited on 10/20/2004 7:41:44 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

There is a story today in the Washington Post by Helen Dewar and Thomas Ricks, the headline: Help of Allies Among Three Key Themes. I want you to listen to this quote from Kerry. This quote is actually from April 17th of 1994 on CNN's Late Edition. This is back when Frank Sesno hosted the program. This is the third paragraph of the story in the Washington Post today.

"Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, 'If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no.'"

So I mean there you have it. John Kerry believes that American troops dying under the banner of the UN flag is acceptable, when dying under the banner of the American flag is not. I hope he's asked about this. This is something that shows up again in the Washington Post today, it's from 1994. This is the best evidence we have, and this is from Kerry's own lips, of his obsession -- and I don't think that's too strong a word to use here -- his obsession with the UN. If you take this quote and combine it with his other words and his record, you have irrefutable evidence, all the evidence we need that he worships at the shrine of the United Nations. Here's the actual question and answer from Frank Sesno CNN on Late Edition, April 17th of 1994. Sesno says: Senator Kerry, it begs the question, what are the U.S. interests and the strategic interests in this place called the Balkans? Kerry: Well, they are less than our interests in perhaps Haiti. They are greater than our interests in Somalia. Sesno: But worth dying for? That's the question, are they worth fighting and dying for? Kerry: Well, it depends what you mean by that, Frank. If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yeah, it's worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome the answer is unequivocally no. So I think it's a question of where you place the interest.

So John Kerry thinks that American troops dying under the American flag is not justified, and is not worthwhile, but under the UN flag, then of course American deaths are justified. Now, this is all about Bosnia, and Clinton went in without the United Nations, if you recall. So I would think that Kerry would be in opposition to what we did there and that any deaths that we incurred are not worth it because we went in with some unilateral false presumption that we could affect the outcome.

We will keep a sharp eye on this. I just think this is a devastating quote. You put it in context with the global test quote that he had in the first debate. Make no mistake, this is the Washington Post, this is the third paragraph of the story, this will be picked up on and harped on by the Bush campaign I'm certain, it has to be, later on today.

We found the audio sound bite of John Kerry on CNN April 17th, 1994. Frank Sesno with the question. This is all about going to the Balkans. Is it worth American lives to go to Balkans? And here's the sound bite.

SESNO: Are they worth dying for? That's the question. Are they worth fighting and dying for?

KERRY: It depends what you mean by that, Frank. If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no.

RUSH: I mean, there you have it. Here's John Kerry saying that American deaths under the UN banner are permissible and honorable, American deaths under American flag only are not, April 17th, 1994. It doesn't sound to me like this position of his, this global test and the UN will have a veto over what we do doesn't sound like his position has changed, sounds like it's hardened, sounds like it's the one policy Kerry is actually firm in believing. It sounds like that Kerry does not flip-flop when it comes to the UN. He may flip-flop on everything else, but when it comes to the UN, boy, it trumps everything. And he's been consistent, at least as we can prove from the record from 1994 to the present, about ten years, ladies and gentlemen.


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KEYWORDS: 1994; bosnia; kerry; napalminthemorning; soros; troops; un; wot
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81 posted on 10/20/2004 10:06:11 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Kerry will bring the Big Dig to Washington in the form of Healthcare becasue thats what liberals do)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
Republicans should make an ad:

Kerry's ONE consistent position over the years:

Kerry, 1971: "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

Kerry, 1994: ""If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

Kerry, 2004:"But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test, that passes the global test."

82 posted on 10/20/2004 10:08:30 AM PDT by QQQQQ (Defeat Kerry. Support the SwiftVets. Keep the ads on the air. http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Peach

A lot of the libs I know didn't know that bit of fact

I USE to get into arguments all the time till I pointed that little fact out to them

Bottom Line ... They lost another argument


83 posted on 10/20/2004 10:09:00 AM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: Peach

Half of America is really this stupid.


84 posted on 10/20/2004 10:12:28 AM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: Dog
Dennis.....what the hell is it him ....bowing like that.

It reminds me of what they do at the beginning of a karate match

85 posted on 10/20/2004 10:17:07 AM PDT by Mo1 (This Sept 10th attitude is no way to protect our country)
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To: QQQQQ; Miss Marple; Howlin; Mo1; Grampa Dave
Here is how I read this statement...

""If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that.

American's dying to enforce a UN Security Council Resolution....is OK.

If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

But if god forbid one of our allies ....say Poland is attacked by the Russians......and we have to step in to save the Poles.....he is against that.

So in Kerry's world.....there would be no allies...he wouldn't defend them...

Bye-Bye South Korea.

86 posted on 10/20/2004 10:27:02 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Peach

Just a reminder of who will be in charge of the US under Kerry. Good friends of ours like Algeria and Pakistan and China who surely have our best interests at heart:

http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_members.html


87 posted on 10/20/2004 10:27:18 AM PDT by Veto! (Kerry wears a tutu, TeRAYza wears the pants)
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To: All
January 3, 1970 -- Kerry is discharged from active duty.

February 13, 1970 -- Candidate Kerry tells the Harvard Crimson, "I'm an internationalist. I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations," and that he wants "to almost eliminate CIA activity."

88 posted on 10/20/2004 10:28:23 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: Dog

Kerry like Carter hate a strong America and are truly dangerous individual.

Carter in 4 years came close to destroying our military, our intel groups and our economy. He allowed the Islamofascists to take over in Iran and become the starter yeast for the current Islamofascist who would kill all of us.

America will be around after 4 years of Kerry if he is elected or steals the election.


89 posted on 10/20/2004 10:31:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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90 posted on 10/20/2004 10:32:28 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: Peach

Rush played the clip in the first hour of his show.

I'm sure Hannity and Hugh Hewitt will play it as well


91 posted on 10/20/2004 10:33:17 AM PDT by hattend (I'm on the Mark Steyn Ping List! I'm somebody!)
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To: Gucho

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A46225-2004Oct19.html

Is the story rush was quoting from.

NATO and the United Nations appear to be touchstones for the Democratic nominee, not just the troublesome hurdles that they appear to be to President Bush. In speeches over the years, Kerry repeatedly has denounced unilateral action.

Kerry's belief in working with allies runs so deep that he has maintained that the loss of American life can be better justified if it occurs in the course of a mission with international support. In 1994, discussing the possibility of U.S. troops being killed in Bosnia, he said, "If you mean dying in the course of the United Nations effort, yes, it is worth that. If you mean dying American troops unilaterally going in with some false presumption that we can affect the outcome, the answer is unequivocally no."

The Post story is written with a positive slant to Kerry (IMO).


92 posted on 10/20/2004 10:33:28 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/draft.htm)
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To: Peach

=I think Laura was a teacher, or a librarian. I'm pretty sure she has a degree in Library Science.

Doesn't matter she ourscores Heinz-Kerry in class in every way.

I'm sorry I can't get more excited about this story but I kinda feel like no one will care whose votes we would hope to influence with this information. Bush=Devil Kerry=ABB


93 posted on 10/20/2004 10:33:54 AM PDT by Txsleuth (!!)
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To: Peach
If Kerry is allowed to win:


94 posted on 10/20/2004 10:34:58 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Peach
If I can find the full transcript, I'll post it.

Network: CNN
Name of Program: Late Edition
Date: Sunday, April 17, 1994

Looks like CNN's website only contains transcripts beginning with the year 2000.

Not sure if a Lexus-Nexus search would produce a full transcript or not.
95 posted on 10/20/2004 10:34:59 AM PDT by jdm
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To: All

Did ya'll hear Rush say that Kerry has already decided to declare victory Nov. 2nd no matter what the result. Even if is like 54% Bush 46% Kerry - he will still declare victory will sending lawyers to swing states and contest any and all result necessary to hold this up.


96 posted on 10/20/2004 10:38:15 AM PDT by Txsleuth (!!)
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To: drpix

Ouch! So true, though. It's really sad, as well.


97 posted on 10/20/2004 10:39:21 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Peach
If North Korea invaded South Korea, we couldn't take action against North Korea because China would veto. Therefore, any loss of American lives would be unjustifiable.

If China invaded Taiwan, we couldn't take action against China because China would veto any UN action against them. Therefore, any loss of American lives would be unjustifiable.

If Israel was invaded for the purpose of removing the Jews, we couldn't act to defend Israel because we would be the only nation willing to defend the "occupier/oppressor" against the invaders. Therefore, any loss of American lives would be unjustifiable. The population of Israel would be wiped out or relocated to America

A Kerry Presidency would be a window of opportunity for those who normally fear US reprisals to invade without fear of American military intervention...they would not neglect this window of opportunity.

98 posted on 10/20/2004 10:40:21 AM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Grampa Dave; Peach; Squantos
If the 'rat thugs think they can prevail by using goon tactics, they are making a big mistake.

They forget who owns 90% of the guns in this country.


99 posted on 10/20/2004 10:40:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Peach

He's half correct...

american dying for no reason like the way they were used under Clinton is bad.....


100 posted on 10/20/2004 10:41:59 AM PDT by misterrob
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