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MSNBC - Frank Luntz says - if the Prez is not up by at least 3 points in the Polls, he will lose...

Posted on 10/19/2004 7:39:42 PM PDT by TBBT

When asked - Frank said that the President has the momentum at the moment in the national polls. However, the race is really close in the Electoral College.

He said that due to increased voter registration and the last remaining undecided voters - who tend to break towards the challenger - he believes that Bush will need at least a 3 point lead in the popular vote (national polls) to win enough battle ground states to win the electoral college.

He states that conventional wisdom says it's one thing to register a lot of new voters, but it’s another to get them to the polls. However, he said he thinks this year is going to be different and therefore he is predicting a record turn out. He says this factor will favor Kerry, making up ground for Kerry by about 0.5%. He says that the remaining undecided voters breaking for the challenger will give Kerry another 2.5%.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: frankluntz; predictions
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1 posted on 10/19/2004 7:39:43 PM PDT by TBBT
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He's wrong. Last minute undecideds break for the incumbent.


2 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:04 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: TBBT

Loose what?


3 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:19 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: TBBT

Please... lose not loose.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 7:41:24 PM PDT by TFine80 (DK'S)
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To: TBBT

I think Frank forgot to factor in the Democrat Voter Fraud... This will probably give Kerry another 1 to 2%.


5 posted on 10/19/2004 7:42:52 PM PDT by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Luntz may be right. Then again, he may be wrong.


6 posted on 10/19/2004 7:43:52 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Prevent the next 9-11. Stop Islamic immigration and deport Muslim aliens.)
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To: rintense

Sorry I meant lose - my fingers don't always listen to my brain....


7 posted on 10/19/2004 7:43:53 PM PDT by TBBT
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To: TBBT

see...


8 posted on 10/19/2004 7:44:14 PM PDT by TBBT
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To: TBBT

I'm always suspicious when somebody's argument hinges on "this time will be different."


9 posted on 10/19/2004 7:44:16 PM PDT by netmask
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And you know what my opinion is? There are 3% more Bush Democrats than there are Kerry Republicans ;-) He also forgets that the black vote may not turn out for kerry. I think if Bush is up 2 pts. he should remain the winner. Too many polls with Bush at or over 50% and the ones not there, Bush leads pretty good in most..not all


10 posted on 10/19/2004 7:44:19 PM PDT by madison46 (Are there kerry Republicans or only Bush Democrats?)
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To: rintense

He's been spending too much time with Chrissy matthews.


11 posted on 10/19/2004 7:44:37 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: MarkeyD

Synapses, probably.


12 posted on 10/19/2004 7:44:51 PM PDT by Old Professer (Fear is the fountain of hostility.)
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To: TFine80

You're fighting a loosing battle. That misspelling is considered an inside joke here, like stuned beebers or a nation of dumbies.


13 posted on 10/19/2004 7:45:19 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: rintense

That threw me for a loop, too.


14 posted on 10/19/2004 7:45:54 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Petronski

Speling facist loosers!


15 posted on 10/19/2004 7:46:19 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Burger-Eating War Monkey)
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To: TBBT

Voter fraud adds 2-3% to the RATS.


16 posted on 10/19/2004 7:47:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (Michael Moore = a culinary Pinocchio ---- tell a lie, gain a pound.)
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To: rintense

OK, Luntz has about 20 years in the polling business. You have very strong feelings about the matter. Given these respective qualifications, who do you think is right on this issue?


17 posted on 10/19/2004 7:47:54 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: TBBT

typical MSM. So bush has to be really winning to win. So if on election eve if bush wins fla. by 3 percentage pts. kerry gets the 25 electoral votes?


18 posted on 10/19/2004 7:49:35 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: rintense
BINGO, Plus... If you look at the internals, Bush is up by over 20+ points on who best to lead in the war on terror, and 25+ on who best to deal with the terrorist. He has a 10 point lead among men, 2 point lead among women and 8 point lead among independents

IMHO, those are numbers Kerry simply can't overcome..... HE'S TOAST!

19 posted on 10/19/2004 7:49:51 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: BCrago66

I don't know who is right...

However, I think it's no time to relax or feel any comfort in the current polls...


20 posted on 10/19/2004 7:50:14 PM PDT by TBBT
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