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Confederate Flag still an issue?
eastcarolinian ^ | October 14, 2004 | Peter Kalajian

Posted on 10/19/2004 5:14:54 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

As I drove down 5th street yesterday, I spied a bumper sticker that addresses an issue I have been waiting for an excuse to write about. It was in the back window of a pickup truck, whose ability to operate I found simply amazing, strategically situated between an empty gun rack and another sticker depicting Calvin (of Calvin and Hobbes fame) urinating on "Osama" with a devilish grin on his face.

I will leave the "Osama" reference and defamation of an innocent newspaper comic strip character alone for the purposes of this article, and will concentrate on the content of the other bumper sticker. It was a simple, Confederate flag, next to which was written the words, "Heritage not Hate". Now, if I have ever read something more deserving of one of my diatribes, I cannot recall.

This statement, which for the record I believe to be sheer nonsense, speaks of an issue with which I had very limited experience before relocating to North Carolina, but an issue of importance nonetheless.

All my life, the Confederate flag was something of a joke to me. M history classes in high school and earlier had taught me that the Confederate defeat during the Civil War was a good thing, that the moral argument against slavery (espoused by the Lincoln government in Washington) was a black and white issue, about right and wrong, and that the Union triumph is 1865 was righteous.

Granted, the history I was taught spoke from a biased perspective, from the moral high ground of the abolitionists and northern intellectuals, and never really addressed the true, underlying reasons for the Civil War, which I would come to learn much later. After considering all the information I have been able to locate on the subject, after long hours of trying to understand just where the Confederacy was coming from and why they wanted to defend their way of life, I have come to a few conclusions.

Naturally, these conclusions reflect my upbringing and Northern perspective, and I am more than confident than my loyal readers will have more than a few comments of their own to contribute.

First of all, "Heritage not Hate", is an extreme cop out. Sure, the Confederate flag, displayed in the year 2004, some 140 years after the actual conflict ended, may stand for some long forgotten Southern pride issue. It may stand for the struggles that people in the Southeastern region of the United States suffered through and the wars that they fought.

It may stand for some perceived difference between the North and South, which apparently has persisted to this day, and may fondly recall the era of Southern dominance of the United States.

Woops, little mistake there. The South has never "dominated" anything. It is another region within the greater whole, just as it was then and remains so today. As for the "Not Hate" part of the bumper sticker, a more laughable statement I cannot recall. There are far too many damning coincidences that will forever relegate the Stars and Bars to the level of racist propaganda.

Why is it that hate groups all over the country, to this day, fly the Confederate flag as a symbol of their ideology. White Supremacist organizations,

, the sad, pitiful remnants of the Klu Klux Klan, along with many other neo-Nazi and racially motivated groups all include the Confederate flag amongst their symbols of worship.

Is this coincidence? Are people who fly the Confederate flag, be it in bumper sticker form or on the end of a flagpole, trying to align themselves with such openly evil and backward-thinking organizations? I don't think so. I think that people fly the flag to recall the once glorious Confederated states of America and celebrate their history, while at the same time somehow overlooking the racial implications inherent in the very symbol they hold so high.

Make no mistake. Whether you choose to recognize it or not, the fact remains the same: The Confederate flag is a racist symbol. It was during the Civil War, it remains so today. I challenge anyone to show me an African-American person with a Confederate Flag bumper sticker or "The South will rise again" written in their computers screensaver.

Is this a coincidence? You would sooner find a swastika flying outside the Israel embassy as you would a Confederate flag flying at an N.A.A.C.P rally. To me, the symbols have long been morally relative to each other. Both stand for hate, oppression, and the wanton murder and destruction of a group of people because of some perceived inferiorities. Plantation owners in the South, before and during the Civil War, treated slaves the same way they treated horses and sheep.

They were not human beings, quite the contrary. They could be bought and sold like farm equipment and with as much compassion. So to during the Nazi era in Germany; Jews were not considered people in the same way that German citizens were, therefore their wholesale murder could be justified. Anyone who cannot see the glaring similarities between the Confederate flag and the Swastika needs to pick up a history book and do some research.

If you care to display a symbol that represents the brutality and viciousness and lack of humanity that was involved in something like the slave trade, as the Confederate flag clearly does, you are entitled. The first Amendment to the Constitution allows you the freedom to display just about whatever you care to, but consider this. If you are going to fly the Stars and Bars, don't sugar coat it. Don't downplay the racial aspects and idealize the cultural aspects. They are one in the same.

Be up front and honest about your feelings. Confederacy= Hate I think would be a far more realistic bumper sticker, and as we speak I am in negotiations to have a number of said bumper stickers produced. Let us just call a spade a spade and forget about the "Heritage not Hate" nonsense. It is hateful, you know it is, and beating around the bush about it only takes away from the power of the argument. Let the responsive mud slinging commence!


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KEYWORDS: american; confederate; confederateflag; dixie; dixietrash; flag; hate; heritage; hicks; history; honor; kkk; neoconfederate; rebels; redneckhumor; rednecks; south
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To: stand watie

Secession of the brain. You want to be left alone? Who is bothering you where you live? Very strange ...


801 posted on 12/11/2004 11:50:42 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola

I don't think HK Edgerton's stance is delusional at all. He has many supporters who are white and do not care about the color of his skin. I doubt that HK Edgerton would have been lynched by his supporters who are encouraging more of what he is doing. You must be a real Carnac the Magnificient to know what people are feeling on the inside *LOL*


802 posted on 12/11/2004 11:51:50 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: bushpilot
!!!!!!!

lincoln, the secular clayfooted saint of damnyankeeland, was a real piece of work.

had he been 1/2 as smart as his worshipers think he was, he would have wished the NEW CSA "Godspeed & farewell" and SAVED a MILLION LIVES!

did you know he planned to ANNILILATE or "drive from our borders" EVERY INDIAN in the country, after the south was beaten. he said so in a letter to a MA politician.

the REAL lincoln was a scheming, bloody-handed,cheap politician, who was NO BETTER than wee willie klintoon.

he also HATED & FEARED asians,catholics,jews,latinos,recent immigrants & "muddy-coloured people" (mixedbloods like ME!)

free dixie,sw

803 posted on 12/11/2004 11:52:26 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

Lincoln was a piece of work...Centralized Federal power was his gig.


805 posted on 12/11/2004 11:55:53 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: stand watie

"muddy-coloured people" (mixedbloods like ME!)

** You got that right!


806 posted on 12/11/2004 11:58:46 PM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: M. Espinola; All
PLEASE come south & tell HK that. then DUCK!

HK & his brother are close friends of mine.

i'll even spring for the lunch, if you'll let me bring my NY-born Jewish partner along (she'll tear you limb from limb as she knows ALL TOO WELL what anti-Semetic scum the typical DY is.) it'll be a HOOT!

free dixie,sw

807 posted on 12/12/2004 12:00:28 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: cyborg
FUNNY!

btw, did you know he thinks i'm a traitor????

rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

808 posted on 12/12/2004 12:02:30 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

You remind me of Zell Miller when he gave Chris Matthews the slapping he deserved.


809 posted on 12/12/2004 12:02:52 AM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: ApesForEvolution
YEP!

free dixie,sw

810 posted on 12/12/2004 12:03:10 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

That is a spurious assumption about you.


811 posted on 12/12/2004 12:03:29 AM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: cyborg
also, YEP!

damnyankees as a group are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUMB!

free dixie,sw

812 posted on 12/12/2004 12:04:18 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: cyborg
thank you!

free dixie,sw

813 posted on 12/12/2004 12:05:00 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: cyborg
NYC.JPG How many black or non-southern supporters does Mr Edgerton have on the issue of his flying the reb flag?

There have been so many examples of southern elected officials thinking the mic was turned off speaking what is really inside them.

Reconstruction was a total failure and there are a few prime examples of it in here. Note the nut in here in favour of the assassination of an President Lincoln. Not all the sickos are overseas wearing bedsheets trying to murder American & Coalition troops.

Talk about sick of mind.

814 posted on 12/12/2004 12:06:03 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: cyborg
that is not BY FAR his DUMBEST idea!

free dixie,sw

815 posted on 12/12/2004 12:07:57 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola

It is his right to investigate his own heritage. He doesn't have to consider the opinions of everyone else to do so. I do not think it's fair you equate the people who defend Southern heritage with islamic terrorists. A lot of those Southern types are over there defending you and me.


816 posted on 12/12/2004 12:10:24 AM PST by cyborg (http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/flamelily.html)
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To: stand watie

Your do live in a world all your own.


817 posted on 12/12/2004 12:10:40 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
HK has LEGIONS of black SOUTHERN supporters. i would be GREATLY surprised if he has ANY damnyankeeland supporters!

btw, did you know he was elected as the NC NAACP president several years ago???

free dixie,sw

818 posted on 12/12/2004 12:10:43 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: M. Espinola
you didn't say if you want to eat lunch with HK, my partner & me.

(i' LOVE to see her rip you to bits. i admit to enjoying bloodsports.) she is MUCH sharper of tongue than i AND i predict she will show you to be not only a fool, but also a BIGOT as well!

free dixie,sw

820 posted on 12/12/2004 12:14:36 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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