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And that brings us to great irony of the jihad. The America that the terrorists hate is progressive America: homosexual rights, abortion, radical feminism, pornography, MTV ... you name it. And yet, our progressive friends are almost pathetically eager to embrace radical Islam. Why? There's one thing they have in common: their shared distaste for America.

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1 posted on 10/19/2004 10:55:18 AM PDT by Coffee_drinker
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To: Coffee_drinker

not surprising


2 posted on 10/19/2004 10:57:44 AM PDT by evanp
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Locator.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 10:57:51 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Have a burger and a beer and enjoy your liquid vegetables.)
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To: Coffee_drinker
THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE OKLAHOMA BOMBING GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION,
The Mysterious Jamie Gorelick Phone Call
By David Hoffman,Sun Sep 14 12:10:57 1997


On Aug. 22, 1996, just before the Democratic National Convention,
Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI.
mmediately after this meeting, as it happened,
all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.

Gorelick was instrumental in the corruption of TWA Flight 800 terrorism investigation
Did Clinton appointee corrupt Flight 800 probe?


MORE?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1117579/posts
GORELICK GATE - various FR links




Consider: If Gorelick, Clarke and Clinton had been completely HONEST
to the American public about the Islamic-crashed airplanes, like TWA800, in the 90's
or the other Islamic terror attacks, then Americans WOULD have been on alert on 911
and would have had the opportunity to prevent the 911 Atrocities.


Who's Who on the 9/11 "Independent" Commission

"According to a 1998 Senate testimony of former CIA director James
Woolsey, powerful financier Khalid bin Mahfouz’ younger sister is
married to Osama bin Laden,. (US Senate, Senate Judiciary
Committee, Federal News Service, 3 Sept. 1998, See also Wayne
Madsen, Questionable Ties, In These Times,12 Nov. 2001 )
Bin Mahfouz is suspected to have funneled millions of dollars to the Al
Qaeda network.(See Tom Flocco, Scoop.co.nz 28 Aug. 2002)
Now, "by sheer coincidence", former New Jersey governor Thomas
Kean has business ties with bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi.
Thomas Kean is a director (and shareholder) of Amerada Hess
Corporation , which is involved in the Hess-Delta joint venture with
Delta Oil of Saudi Arabia (owned by the bin Mahfouz and Al-Amoudi
clans)...
Now you would think that being a business partner of the brother in
law and alleged financier of "Enemy No. 1" would also be considered a
bona fide "conflict of interest", particularly when your mandate --as
part of the 9/11 Commission's work-- is to investigate "Enemy No. 1".
"(Michel Chossudovsky, New Chairman of 9/11 Commission had
business ties with Osama's Brother in Law,
Centre for Research on Globalization, December 2002 )


"WE also finally have our own copy of Gorelick's book "Destruction of Evidence"
and we will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, be fired again by anyone.
"

4 posted on 10/19/2004 10:58:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Don't forget Oklahoma City either. All the leads to John Does #3 through who knows how many.

And one day we may yet hear what happened to the missing nukes. Funny that the Chinese liked Clinton so-o-o-o-o-o-o much that they gave him (and other Dems) campaign money.


5 posted on 10/19/2004 11:02:19 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Leave it to the incompetent Clinton administration to ignore the possibility of an Islamic attack at the 1996 Olympics, even after the 1993 WTC bombing.

Speaking of Rudolph, this is from an Indian site:

Lawyers for accused abortion clinic bomber Eric Rudolph on Monday filed motions saying that his capture was "the result of illegal detention and arrest," and they are asking a judge to suppress all evidence gathered during Rudolph's arrest, CNN.com reports.

The attorneys argue that no probable cause existed for police officers to believe Rudolph was committing a crime or that he was a fugitive, and therefore he should not have been detained. There was no immediate response from the prosecution, according to CNN.com (Schuster, CNN.com, 9/20).

Rudolph, who was captured in May 2003 after a five-year search, was wanted for allegedly bombing an Atlanta-area abortion clinic in 1997 and a Birmingham, Ala., clinic in 1998. The Birmingham bombing killed a police officer and critically injured a nurse.

In addition to the clinic bombings, Rudolph has been indicted in relation to the 1997 bombing of an Atlanta gay and lesbian nightclub that injured five people and the 1996 Olympic Park bombing, which killed one person and injured 111 others.

Rudolph's Birmingham trial is scheduled to begin in May 2005 (Kaiser Daily Reproductive Health Report, 8/25). Rudolph faces the death penalty in that trial.

However, his attorneys on Monday again filed motions in federal court arguing that the death penalty is unconstitutional and should not be an option for sentencing, according to CNN.com (CNN.com, 9/20).
http://www.onlypunjab.com/real/fullstory-newsID-6789.html


6 posted on 10/19/2004 11:02:55 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: biblewonk
Ping. Interesting thread, especially the "irony of the jihad" near the end of the article.
7 posted on 10/19/2004 11:07:01 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Why....

For years I have been telling you because... these acts are SIN.

The Great Satan is a source of sin throughout the world.

He left out Bill Clinton. If Americans place a high value on a scoundrel like Bill Clinton, how can Americans who hold such views be worthy of association.

New York and Hollywood are the cesspools of the world equivalent to the Biblical Sodom and Gommora.

I am not a radical fire and brimstone right wing evangelical conservative but I recognize the same traits in many who are of the Islamic faith.and do not


8 posted on 10/19/2004 11:07:05 AM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Actually, only one woman was killed, and 100 others were injured.

http://www.nydailynews.com/03-21-2004/news/wn_report/story/175822p-153108c.html

Halfway down the NY Daily News article.


9 posted on 10/19/2004 11:07:06 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Coffee_drinker
If I remember correctly, the link between the abortion clinic bomb, homosexual bar bomb, and the Olympic Park bomb was the small marks on the shanks of nails used in the bombs.

The FBI crime lab told us that the crimper that holds the shaft leaves a unique mark on a nail, and the nails at all three places came from the same lot, so Rudolph, and not a foreign terrorist, had to be the perp.

I remember thinking at the time that the Olympic Park bomb was a lot like the Palestinian satchel charges that used to be popular before they started blowing up kids.

Leaping on Jewell, even coercing testimony out of him under the guise of making a training video, then jumping on Rudolph still seems a bit odd. And now that he has been captured, has anyone heard anything from him?
10 posted on 10/19/2004 11:13:01 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Coffee_drinker

In my opinion, that is the one statement that the writer got wrong, it is not really the progressive America that the Islamo-fascists hate, it's just what they tell the Jihadists. The Islamo-fascists and the US Progressives hate the same thing, capitalistic freedom. This includes freedom of religion. The Islamist fascists have exploited the Muslim religion because it transcends national borders and thus trumps nationalism as a resource of support. History has proven that religion makes the most dedicated warriors. This is the same reason that the US left decries and dismisses fundamentalist Christianity. Christianity is the main foe of both the Islamo fascists and the Progressives.


12 posted on 10/19/2004 11:34:47 AM PDT by Eva (W)
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To: Coffee_drinker; NYer; Aquinasfan; thor76; Land of the Irish; Canticle_of_Deborah; Salvation; ...
The America that the terrorists hate is progressive America

I guess that's why they blew up Christian churches in Baghdad, a school full of children in Chechnya, and trains in Spain.

13 posted on 10/19/2004 11:36:39 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Coffee_drinker
And that brings us to great irony of the jihad. The America that the terrorists hate is progressive America: homosexual rights, abortion, radical feminism, pornography, MTV ... you name it. And yet, our progressive friends are almost pathetically eager to embrace radical Islam. Why? There's one thing they have in common: their shared distaste for America.

Truer words were never spoken. I've even argued that, if you look closely, you'll see that the common hatred for America in Europe and elsewhere is really hatred of the left. To most of the world, a stereotypical American is a Michael Moore type caricature.
15 posted on 10/19/2004 11:55:21 AM PDT by Jaysun (HAVE YOU GIVEN ALL YOU CAN TO RALPH NADER??????)
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To: Coffee_drinker

Fascinating. And only too likely. Clinton was DESPERATE to blame violence on the pro-lifers. Half the FBI, black helicopters and all, were assigned to hunt for Eric Rudolph, while dangerous spies and terrorists were ignored.

Yes, Rudolph killed somebody by accident when he bombed the abortion clinic, and he deserves to be caught and tried. But hundreds of worse murderers were given lower priorities, and Muslim terrorists were given a free pass, because acknowledging their existence might have had the wrong political effect.

I never thought about this in connection with the Olympic bombing. But it makes a whole lot of sense in the light of TWA 800, the OKC bombing, and the rest of the clinton record.


16 posted on 10/19/2004 12:00:49 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Coffee_drinker

BTTT


20 posted on 10/19/2004 12:08:39 PM PDT by spodefly (I've posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

ping.


21 posted on 10/19/2004 12:08:49 PM PDT by cgk (Teresa Heinz Kerry: ``The Democratic machine in this country is putrid.'')
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To: Coffee_drinker
There's one thing they have in common: their shared distaste for America.

Bingo.

22 posted on 10/19/2004 12:11:16 PM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Coffee_drinker

another reason to elect W!!!!


28 posted on 10/19/2004 5:25:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Coffee_drinker
And that brings us to great irony of the jihad. The America that the terrorists hate is progressive America: homosexual rights, abortion, radical feminism, pornography, MTV ... you name it. And yet, our progressive friends are almost pathetically eager to embrace radical Islam. Why? There's one thing they have in common: their shared distaste for America.

But don't dare question their patriotism.

33 posted on 10/20/2004 12:17:47 PM PDT by skeeter
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