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ZOT!! Without a Doubt
NYTimes Magazine ^ | October 17, 2004 | Ron Suskind

Posted on 10/18/2004 10:56:56 AM PDT by jiswalsingh

A couple of excerpts from "Without a Doubt" in NYTime's Ragazine:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html?pagewanted=1&oref=login

The aide [to Bush] said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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And for those who don't get it? That was explained to me in late 2002 by Mark McKinnon, a longtime senior media adviser to Bush, who now runs his own consulting firm and helps the president. He started by challenging me. "You think he's an idiot, don't you?" I said, no, I didn't. "No, you do, all of you do, up and down the West Coast, the East Coast, a few blocks in southern Manhattan called Wall Street. Let me clue you in. We don't care. You see, you're outnumbered 2 to 1 by folks in the big, wide middle of America, busy working people who don't read The New York Times or Washington Post or The L.A. Times. And you know what they like? They like the way he walks and the way he points, the way he exudes confidence. They have faith in him. And when you attack him for his malaprops, his jumbled syntax, it's good for us. Because you know what those folks don't like? They don't like you!" In this instance, the final "you," of course, meant the entire reality-based community.


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To: jiswalsingh

21 posted on 10/18/2004 11:16:31 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I'm George W. Bush and I approved this message.)
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To: jiswalsingh

Reality - that Communist sympathizers and socialist pawns want to diminish the United States because we won't hand-over our government to UN rule. As such, they thwart us every chance they get and will use ends that justify their means - our place as a third world country.
That is the current reality.
Where is the problem? Do you support this current world agenda or don't you?


22 posted on 10/18/2004 11:16:58 AM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: cripplecreek
None of it makes sense anyway. Typical of most of the crap that oozes out of the Times.

In this case somebody's word processor has the runs.

23 posted on 10/18/2004 11:18:12 AM PDT by The_Victor (Calvin: "Do tigers wear pajamas?", Hobbes: "Truth is we never take them off.")
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To: jiswalsingh

Ron Suskind perpetuates the myth that certain people know better than we do and have all the answers. We all know that the so-called media and academia elites will never get over losing their power to the people of this country. Their grip has weakened and they've been exposed as radical left-wing snobs. I know quite a few people like them. I love to tell them, "the 60's were over 40 years ago, it's too bad you don't know that."


24 posted on 10/18/2004 11:18:26 AM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: jiswalsingh

Reality-based? If your reality is a land of Hippie-Dippie Commie Pinko Unwashed Scum, then yeah, it's "Reality".


25 posted on 10/18/2004 11:22:44 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("I don't worry about Muggers. My biggest fear is Poachers." - Elizabeth Edwards)
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To: jiswalsingh; MeekOneGOP

We have another troll to zot!


26 posted on 10/18/2004 11:28:41 AM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: jiswalsingh; MeekOneGOP

27 posted on 10/18/2004 11:29:08 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: jiswalsingh
After a nice snack of Southern Fried Troll, Livingston the Viking Kitty likes to sit back and watch Big Cat Diary on Animal Planet.

}:-)4

28 posted on 10/18/2004 11:31:19 AM PDT by Moose4 ("That was beautiful. Now never, ever, do it again.")
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To: jiswalsingh


Welcome to Free Republic! Here is a ZOT for you!
29 posted on 10/18/2004 11:31:48 AM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: jiswalsingh
Suskind should dial 9-1-1 and call a Waahmbulance!
30 posted on 10/18/2004 11:32:49 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Two Kerrys for the two Americas.")
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To: Old Sarge

hehehe


31 posted on 10/18/2004 11:33:45 AM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: jiswalsingh

32 posted on 10/18/2004 11:40:26 AM PDT by Ryan Spock
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To: jiswalsingh

The "reality-based community?" Right - anyone not in this, er, "community" must ipso facto be based on something other than reality, right? People who play this sort of definition game are not to be taken seriously.


33 posted on 10/18/2004 11:41:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: jiswalsingh

I was here!


34 posted on 10/18/2004 11:43:30 AM PDT by Thrusher (Laffer curve: decreasing tax rates increases tax revenue.)
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To: jiswalsingh
Pudge the Indestructable Kitty says, "Just a L-I-T-T-L-E closer troll....just a L-I-T-T-L-E closer...
35 posted on 10/18/2004 11:44:47 AM PDT by hiredhand
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To: jiswalsingh

LIGHTNING FLASHES!!

VIKING KITTIES!!!

THE RIDE OF THE VALKYRIES!!!

THE SMELL OF BURNING liberal thought (OXYMORON)!!!

YES, I'M SHOUTING!! I LIKE TO SHOUT (English Beat?)


36 posted on 10/18/2004 11:47:34 AM PDT by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: jiswalsingh; wjcsux; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ...
He's dead, Jim.
(Click here or on the pic).



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


37 posted on 10/18/2004 11:55:56 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: jiswalsingh

38 posted on 10/18/2004 11:59:36 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Ignorance, bigotry, envy, and gluttony are floor joists in the democratic platform.)
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To: jiswalsingh

Don't go away mad, just go away.....

3........2........1.......

Bye.


39 posted on 10/18/2004 11:59:53 AM PDT by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: jiswalsingh
people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality."
As opposed to the study of an indiscernible reality?

Kerry believes terrorism is a law enforcement issue. What strength of glue must he sniff to "discern" such a "reality," let alone "judiciously study it"?
40 posted on 10/18/2004 12:06:46 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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