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TIPP Tracking Poll: Bush+4 (Monday Oct 18)
TIPP Tracking Poll ^

Posted on 10/18/2004 8:10:20 AM PDT by drangundsturm

Bush: 49% Kerry: 45%


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; gwb2004; kewl; napalminthemorning; poll; polls; tipp
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Read 'em and weep, dems.
1 posted on 10/18/2004 8:10:22 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: drangundsturm

Those are some good numbers considering the weekend polls prefer the whinny dems


2 posted on 10/18/2004 8:11:20 AM PDT by slowhand520
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To: drangundsturm

Oh, no, this is awful. Kerry is killing us! It's over, it's over, wait...oh, Bush up four. Hmmm.


3 posted on 10/18/2004 8:12:36 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: slowhand520

True, weekend polls are better for the rats.
This is good news!

However, I thought Zogby had it tied again...hmmmmm.


4 posted on 10/18/2004 8:14:16 AM PDT by snarkytart
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5 posted on 10/18/2004 8:16:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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However, I thought Zogby had it tied again...hmmmmm.

I guess Rasmussen will have to break the tie in the tracking poll wars, then, sometime in the next 45 minutes. Please note that Rasmussen calls more people than Zog and TIPP combined, so he tends to have less swing every day from statistical noise.

6 posted on 10/18/2004 8:17:17 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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I notice Zogby has undecideds at nine percent.


7 posted on 10/18/2004 8:17:42 AM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe this is a net gain of +1 for Bush over the last few days. Overall trends looking good. I suspect we will see some really good state polls coming out by the end of the week.


8 posted on 10/18/2004 8:18:12 AM PDT by gswilder
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To: drangundsturm

This is good, closer to the magical 50%. This is a poll of likely voters, usually the undecideds will go for the challenger, so 50% is the promised land.


9 posted on 10/18/2004 8:18:31 AM PDT by bigjoesaddle (Shrug)
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To: Tennessean4Bush

This may be more accurate than Gallup's 8% lead, but with most of the polls showing 3-6% leads for Bush, at least 4% seems likely. That's a landslide, folks.

And Kerry had his big chance to get his message to the voters with the three debates--and he blew it, or at least failed to capitalize on it. He will have a very difficult time turning the tide from here on in.


10 posted on 10/18/2004 8:19:44 AM PDT by DJtex (;)
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I want to see more of this MSM Kerry Mo!


11 posted on 10/18/2004 8:19:46 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: drangundsturm

But Zogby must be correct. After all, he has no bias and neither does his client, Reuters!


12 posted on 10/18/2004 8:21:11 AM PDT by olrtex
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To: bigjoesaddle
This is good, closer to the magical 50%. This is a poll of likely voters, usually the undecideds will go for the challenger, so 50% is the promised land.

49% with nader in the race is already the promised land, but of course it's way too close to be comfortable. You would have to believe that 100% of the undecideds go for kerry, a statistical impossibility. He might get 70%, but not 100%.

13 posted on 10/18/2004 8:21:39 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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Rasmussen and Zogby have a very close methodology. Only difference is the way they ask questions, Rasmussen is automated, Zogby has live operators. But other than that, they are identical to how they shape and form their polls.



14 posted on 10/18/2004 8:22:35 AM PDT by Josh in PA
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Zogby has "undecideds" at 9%. He's gotta be kidding!

As often as not, at the last minute, the "undecideds" go for the incumbent party in national races. ("Better the fool you know.") As they did in 2000. In regional races they usually go for the challenger.

15 posted on 10/18/2004 8:24:07 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: DJtex
And Kerry had his big chance to get his message to the voters with the three debates--and he blew it, or at least failed to capitalize on it. He will have a very difficult time turning the tide from here on in.

I agree. Whatever he gained from debates (if anything) will be a distant memory by the end of this week. The race is returning to the 5-6% bush lead that was in effect before debate 1.

The state polls, which lag by about a week from the tracking polls, should start turning dramatically against kerry by the end of this week. The MSM will then turn on kerry for blowing what they feel was an obvious opportunity to unseat Bush. Dem faithful will be putting in calls to Dr. Kavorkian by this coming monday.

16 posted on 10/18/2004 8:25:40 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: Sooth2222

That is correct, there is a mistaken assumption that in presidential races the undecides got to the challenger....Decidedly untrue


17 posted on 10/18/2004 8:26:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: drangundsturm
Unfortunately, Ras just came out and confirms the Zogby numbers that the race is tied. It will take another day to account for whether this is the normal "weekend effect" or not.
18 posted on 10/18/2004 8:29:18 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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I guess Rasmussen will have to break the tie in the tracking poll wars, then, sometime in the next 45 minutes.

They have been early the last few days...I wonder why the late reporting today??

19 posted on 10/18/2004 8:29:33 AM PDT by Krodg
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Rasmussen has it tied at 47 today. Go figure.


20 posted on 10/18/2004 8:35:12 AM PDT by jackbill
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