Denunciation of US Senator John F Kerry for Heresy.

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[ARA]

The Catholic ArchDiocese in Boston is bringing charges of Heresy against John Kerry.

[xtinct]

And this is why....

Democrats like John Kerry are using the poor and illiterate to advance stem cell research.

Everyone thought it was the money when people objected to abortion being paid for by medicaid but it's really this.

Kerry is "in your face" about his religion.

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[fastattacksailor]

Hopefully they will use more than the Comfy Chair, or the Soft Pillow, LOL!

[plain talk]

What does this mean? I'm not familiar with complaints of heresy and how they're handled.

absolutely nothing. I read part of it. Sounds like the complaint is based on Kerry's support for abortion. Kerry has a lot of company there including Ted Kennedy the other Senator in his state and numerous other politicians. yawn.

[sitetest]

Dear sartorius,

"That would be tantamount to a Schism, no, since Rome agrees with the Canon Lawyer?"

I don't think that that would be an appropriate way to characterize it. I think the tribunal would be WRONG. Tribunals can rule wrongly without being accused of schism. That's why there's an appeals process.

And I think the case would then be appealed to Rome, and then Rome would have to decide whether or not to stick to its guns. I pray they would.

After all, although authoritative, the opinion of the theologian charged by the CDF was unofficial.

Although, when I think about the fact that it took such a short period of time, it makes me wonder. At first, I thought that Cardinal Ratzinger had wanted to make clear in a quiet way what the real deal was without making a big scene. Now I'm thinking it may have just been the fastest way to get a ruling out, avoiding the whole bureaucratic apparatus of the CDF. What do you think?


sitetest

[k2blader]

Whoah. Thanks for the info!

[sporkgoddess]

I am afraid that this will not work due to the Church's option of dissent (under certain conditions, one can disagree with a policy.) Also, it will make many pro-choice Catholics mad. He might even get sympathy votes from said Catholics. As much as I would like him kicked out of my church, things just don't work this way anymore.

But if I'm wrong, then... yay, no more Kerry the Cafeteria Catholic!

[Laurita]

Kerry would have said he was Muslim if he thought it would get him more votes. This sort of thing will happen when you kowtow to every special interest group in the country, eventually their "ideologies" will begin to conflict. Kerry: I'm not a Catholic (war hero, statesman, patriot, etc), but I play one on TV.

[Palladin]

The Dems are pulling out all the stops in these last two weeks to get Catholics to vote for Kerry. Look at this letter from my local paper yesterday:

Sun-Gazette October 16, 2004

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Candidates and Catholics

Editor, Sun-Gazette:
Because of the abortion issue, many Catholics conclude that George W. Bush’s policies are in keeping with Catholic moral teaching on life. However, except for abortion, most of Bush’s positions on matters of life are opposed to Catholic moral teaching and papal pronouncements, while Kerry’s are generally in harmony with these. Pope John Paul II has condemned Bush’s Iraq War as morally wrong from the first and reiterated this at their most recent meeting.
The Catholic Church rejects capital punishment as incompatible with the dignity of human life, while Bush, as governor, executed more individuals (152) than any governor in recent history. The Catholic Church supports a “preferential option for the poor” as well as the concept of universal health care. The Republicans and insurance companies defeated Bill Clinton’s attempt in his first term to establish universal health care for our country, and now millions are without this modern necessity.
Bush’s tax cuts have failed to bring about decent jobs for the poor; Bush is the first President in many years who has presided over a net loss of jobs during his term in office. Some Catholic leaders insist that abortion is the sole issue around which Catholics should form their conscience as voters. This conflicts with the bishops’ official statement (The Challenge of Faithful Citizenship) in which they state that they will not endorse candidates and they “hope that voters will examine candidates on the full range of issues and on their personal integrity, philosophy and performance.”
It simply is not the case that George W. Bush supports the Catholic position on matters of life and John Kerry opposes it.
Stephen Bickham
Wellsboro
Submitted by e-mail

[sitetest]

Dear sartorius,

FT - Okay.

Cardinal McCarrick - perhaps. He is a consummate politician. I hesitate to say just what he will be "cornered" to.


sitetest

[k2blader]

Disgusting!

[sitetest]

Dear sporkgoddess,

One may disagree with a discipline, though one is still bound by it. One may not dissent from a magisterial teaching, even one that is not technically infallible.

But the teaching on abortion is likely infallible, as the theologian commissioned by the CDF has clearly stated, and thus dissent from it is absolutely heretical.

Mr. Kerry is a heretic.

I'm willing to spring for the kerosene.


sitetest

[chuckles]

How come when I say something, I'm Catholic bashing, but Catholics get to do anything they want? ;<)

[ThomasMore]

I pray for McCarricks soul. Pray that mine remains faithful.

Deacon Francis

[Laurita]

Good question. That works within most racial, ethnic, religious, anything groups. Although, I don't believe I've ever heard a Jew poke fun at his own religion. What am I saying?!? Mel Brooks! How could I forget Mel Brooks?

[sporkgoddess]

Abortion is infallible? Wow, then I guess they do have a case. Good. But I'm still afraid that this will anger many Catholics.

[ThomasMore]

Thank you...I will... :^)