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I'll refresh this as I get more names, links and quotes

Other FR threads:

Unit That Refused Iraq Duty Said Released - AP ^ | 10/16/04 | REBECCA YONKER
 

MSM articles:

All of us refused to go' New York Daily News

Revolt in the ranks in Iraq Salon, Mary Jocoby

Unit That Refused Iraq Duty Said Released - AP ^ | 10/16/04 | REBECCA YONKER
 

5 troops may get general discharge (Clarion-Ledger)

Platoon defies orders in Iraq (Clarion-Ledger via Marine Corps Times)

Six Degrees of John Kerry lists of names (for research):

"Mutineers"

Name quoted relative Article referenced Information / quote
Sgt. Justin Rogers Harold Casey (grandfather) Unit That Refused Iraq Duty Said Released (AP) his grandson told him Saturday that he and other soldiers had been detained by military authorities but were later released

his grandson, Justin Rogers, 22, called him Saturday to tell him that he and other soldiers were put under armed guard after refusing to deliver the supplies

"The fuel was contaminated for the helicopters," Casey said his grandson told him. "It would have caused them to crash. ... They saved lives."

Spec. Joseph Dobbs Beverly Dobbs (mother) All of us refused to go (NY Daily News) told online magazine Salon she got a panicked call from her son Wednesday. "Mama, we're in a lot of trouble," he said.

"We had some contaminated fuel. We went out on this mission, and they turned us back, and our captain got mad and was gonna send us out on another mission," Beverly Dobbs recalled her son saying. "We refused to go because our vehicles were in awful shape. The place they wanted to send us was dangerous. We had to go without guns. All of us refused to go. We're not risking our lives like that."

Sgt. Larry McCook Patricia McCook (wife) Unit That Refused Iraq Duty Said Released (AP) her husband called Friday and said the soldiers had been released after being detained

her husband said five members were reassigned because "they said these five really instigated the entire process."

    5 troops may get general discharge Thompson said he reviewed a faxed plea from Patricia McCook to his office after a Clarion-Ledger reporter called it to his attention.
Sgt. Michael Butler Jackie Butler (wife) Platoon defies orders in Iraq “I got a call from an officer in another unit early (Thursday) morning who told me that my husband and his platoon had been arrested on a bogus charge because they refused to go on a suicide mission,” said Jackie Butler of Jackson, wife of Sgt. Michael Butler, a 24-year reservist. “When my husband refuses to follow an order, it has to be something major.”
Pfc. Colin Durham Nadine Stratford (godmother) All of us refused to go (NY Daily News) Citizen Soldier, a New York-based, nonprofit military rights group, has offered her its help.

"I haven't heard a word. I feel worried," said Stratford, 46, who spent the morning scouring newspaper accounts of the alleged mutiny. "It had to be something bad for him not to want to go," she said.

Amber McClenny Teresa Hill (mother) Platoon defies orders in Iraq McClenny, 21, pleaded for help in a message left on her mother’s answering machine early Thursday morning. “They are holding us against our will,” McClenny said. “We are now prisoners.”

The convoy trucks the platoon was driving had experienced problems in the past and were not being properly maintained, Hill said her daughter told her.

Spc. Scott Shealey Ricky Scott (father) 5 troops may get general discharge "My son said they are getting ready to be discharged and would be home in three or four weeks," said Ricky Scott of Quinton, Ala., father of Spc. Scott Shealey. "It's just a boot ... some way to put some type of close to this while using them as scapegoats."

Military personnel involved or referenced

Name Position Article referenced Information / quote
Brig. Gen. James E. Chambers commanding general of the 13th Corps Support Command U.S. general promises to review protective measures for supply vehicles after reservists refuse mission in Iraq all soldiers involved in the incident had returned to duty and it was ''too early'' to determine whether any of them will face disciplinary action.

Chambers told reporters the command will ''assess armor'' on supply vehicles, which are often subject to insurgent attack, and add steel plating if necessary.

He denied claims by some of the soldiers to their families that the fuel they were to deliver was contaminated.

    Gen. Vows Review of Iraq Safety Measures  
Col. Darrell Roll deputy to Brig Gen. James E. Chambers    
Brig. Gen. Charles J Dunlap Jr formerly Lt Col., deputy staff judge advocate

currently Brig. Gen. Air Combat Command

The US military: A creeping civilian mission published an article titled "The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012"

 

Politicians/Pundits pushing the story

Name Position Article referenced Information / quote
Rep. Bennie Thompson, Congressman, D Miss KnoxNews.com: Thompson's office received a letter from Patricia McCook of Jackson, Miss., on Thursday, relating concerns about her husband, Sgt. Larry McCook, and 16 others "being detained or possibly arrested in Iraq," said the congressman's legislative assistant, Karis T. Gutter. The office had received earlier correspondence concerning "ill-equipped vehicles," he said.
    5 troops may get general discharge Thompson said he reviewed a faxed plea from Patricia McCook to his office after a Clarion-Ledger reporter called it to his attention.

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Contradictions / Changes in the Story

Source 1st version Source 2nd version
KnoxNews.com: Thompson's office received a letter from Patricia McCook of Jackson, Miss., on Thursday, relating concerns about her husband, Sgt. Larry McCook, and 16 others "being detained or possibly arrested in Iraq," said the congressman's legislative assistant, Karis T. Gutter. The office had received earlier correspondence concerning "ill-equipped vehicles," he said. 5 troops may get general discharge Thompson said he reviewed a faxed plea from Patricia McCook to his office after a Clarion-Ledger reporter called it to his attention.

 

 

184 posted on 10/17/2004 12:26:26 PM PDT by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: Phsstpok

Wow! You're working your little bum off! Thanks so much!!!


189 posted on 10/17/2004 12:46:58 PM PDT by SheLion (PLEASE vote! We can't afford to be silent!!!! Do we really want FnKerry to run our Country?!)
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To: Phsstpok
"The fuel was contaminated for the helicopters,"

That's weird. Service and supply units don't have helicopters. They only have trucks to haul fuel, supplies, tools, etc.

And they are not organized in platoons. They're organized in sections. And they don't always have weapons, because in some scenarios, they're safer without weapons (might end up "shooting their guns or something"--little vulgar combat soldier humor there about something no soldier wants to happen). ...almost no training in fire-and-maneuver for many non-combat troops, as their MOSs (specialties) are quite civilian-like. And they're surrounded with security provided by combat soldiers.
191 posted on 10/17/2004 12:49:05 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Phsstpok
There seems to be some "there", there...well done on the research!

The Free Republic is in good hands with all the diverse talent here...one is never short on "all the available facts", whatever the issue or opinions might be, and I think you could safely change your tagline to "often in doubt, but never wrong"...LOL! ;)

203 posted on 10/17/2004 1:12:05 PM PDT by 88keys (stay vigilant...your future depends on it!)
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To: Phsstpok

Michael Savage is talking about this now. This is the first time that I heard the actual phone call from the coward to her mommy.


369 posted on 10/18/2004 5:45:41 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Phsstpok; All

Wow, great compilation/chart! My humble suggestion: start a new thread so this info doesn't get buried.


376 posted on 10/20/2004 12:34:56 PM PDT by JLO
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