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Usama bin Laden is Dead
Froggy Ruminations ^ | October 16, 2004 | Matthew Heidt

Posted on 10/17/2004 2:25:45 AM PDT by billorites

You hadn't heard? Well, I'm not breaking news, President Bush knows damn well that UBL has been dead for quite some time. But why would Bush keep it to himself? If he were to disclose his knowledge that UBL is dead he would blow John Kerry's doors off in the election, and yet he remains silent. Why?

Maybe you're wondering how I know he's dead. Perhaps one of my SEAL buddies let me in on the secret? NO. I know because a publicity whore and grandstanding scumbag like UBL could not possibly resist the multitude of opportunites to inspire his cult members. His number 1, Zwahiri, has appeared on video or audio broadcasts every few months since 9/11. UBL has not been heard from since Tora Bora despite developments in the GWOT in Afghanistan and Iraq that make it unthinkable for him to have remained silent. Not to mention successful attacks in Bali, Madrid, Turkey, and Jakarta to name a few that remain unremarked upon by UBL. The invasion and occupation of an Islamic state by the US and not a word. Elections held for the first time in Afghan history, and he had nothing to say about it in the lead up. AQ tried once early on to air a tape that never mentioned key developments in the Afghan campaign and was quickly discredited as an attempt to put one over on his followers by airing a previous recording. Zwahiri decided that it was better to just pretend that UBL was alive because there was no plausible martyr story to tell. UBL went out running for his life like a coward. He is dead. His remains are turds shat by scavenging animals in the mountains of Afghanistan blown by the wind and stomped on by US troops.

By why not make it public? After all, this is the one thing that could ensure the President's re-election. Have you noticed how coy DOD officials and high ranking officers are when the question is posed? They know. They certainly have intelligence to this effect. Of course, the President could have instructed subordinates to start saying that intel indicates UBL is dead. This would have put pressure on him to prove otherwise by issuing a statement which he is clearly unable to make. This process could have started 6 months ago, and if UBL did not answer, it would in effect prove the case. But it didn't happen. Why not?

Because the President knows that making UBL a martyr would serve to further inspire his minions, and he realizes that preventing this from happening is more important than his re-election. Instead, UBL remains forever silent even as his recruits yearn to hear his voice. Eventually these cultists will realize themselves that UBL went out like a punk, not a martyr and that the AQ head shed has been lying to them for years. That realization combined with US combat boots knocking their teeth down their throats will go a long way to beating this cult into submission. But it is important to recognize that the President's committment to killing terrorists supercedes his committment to his own re-election. I'm sure he hopes that the American people will come to this conclusion on their own and vote for him anyway, but it is quite a risk to take in the ultimate ME situation.

This kind of integrity and committment stands in stark contrast to his opponent. Kerry has proved to be a Blue Falcon, a traitor, a louse, a shameless opportunist, and an lazy bureaucrat that pads his resume. Kerry is a smart guy too, and he realizes what is going on. But it hasn't stopped him from trying to bait the President into abandoning a critical propaganda victory in the GWOT by incessantly peddling his Tora Bora "outsourcing" charge in all three debates. He knows that the President will not respond to this charge so he is free to make it. Just like the Cheney lesbian scheme, this is a coordinated hatchet job, but this is on an issue that Kerry knows the President must choose to either defend the SOF troops that got the job done or remain silent. To his personal credit he never took the bait, but to his professional detriment he must let an unanswered charge linger. Do you have that kind of discipline? Especially in crunchtime? I don't know if I do, and I'll be happy to never have to find out.

President Bush, meanwhile, has just continued to keep the pressure on the terrorists, get us out of a recession, protect the homeland, and generally put the country's interests ahead of his own. He deserves your vote.


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To: billorites

OBL is dead or captured, but our intel services issue tapes imitating OBL urging loose terrorists to go to Iraq so that our superior tech and tactics can kill them.

The Afgan operation was to kill AQ leaders and to destroy the training camps. But a leaderless AQ was dangerous, more dangerous.

The Iraq operation was to mop up some terrorists and establish a beachhead in the heart of Arab culture [sic]. We have taken both sides of Iran.


21 posted on 10/17/2004 3:21:06 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Dave S

*If* Kerry were elected, you may rest assured, as soon as he was briefed in his new capacity, he would probably spill the beans and further condemn President Bush for not telling it.


22 posted on 10/17/2004 3:26:15 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Poincare

Well, no wonder we can't find OSBL , because, there was nothing left of him, after the US used 6 daisy cutters in those mountians.
I guess they are having a hard time finding any part of him left for DNA testing.
I guess the birds and rats ate the rest of him.


23 posted on 10/17/2004 3:27:03 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: billorites
I agree that Bin Laden has assumed cave temperature and that his 'doctor' will never admit it because it would give Bush the credit and ensure him the election. (done deal anyway).

This war doesn't fail or succeed on the fate of Bin Laden, he has been nothing more than a figurehead for some time now, but knowing that he dwells in the fires of hell without his promised 72 virgins, would give us the closure we need, for 911.

This war now is about changing the face of the Middle East, which is far more important for the future of the world and for the liberation of those people enslaved by 'religious' fanaticism.
25 posted on 10/17/2004 3:42:32 AM PDT by RetSignman (The Pendulum is swinging.)
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To: billorites

I think he's dead too. The idea that he is going from cave to cave lugging around his dialysis equipment always seemed a little far fetched. With all that equipment he would not exactly be a swift moving target.


26 posted on 10/17/2004 3:43:21 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: Jet Jaguar

No he's not.
He's just pinin' for the fjords.


27 posted on 10/17/2004 3:45:17 AM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: billorites

Osama (yo' momma) is with his 70 virgins......


28 posted on 10/17/2004 3:50:50 AM PDT by Stateline
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To: Salamander

give him a llama


29 posted on 10/17/2004 3:51:57 AM PDT by AndrewB
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To: AndrewB

How about a nice blancmange, instead?


30 posted on 10/17/2004 3:53:32 AM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: billorites
I don't think Bush knows he's dead, but I believe he's dead for another reason.

Not one communication from Osama has failed to emphasize that he knew the extreme fear-inducing power of mass murder which included the suicide component. Willing martyrs were the source of the jihadis power, and bin-Laden was aware of this.

I don't think there is any way he would allow the abandonment of martyr missions for remote detonations (Spain and Egypt) and anger inducing snatch-and-behead events(Iraq). He's certainly not at the helm, and this profound change in tactics is the evidence.

31 posted on 10/17/2004 3:55:28 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: billorites
I believe that you are right on target. It is a shame that 50% of the country does not realize how fortunate that we are to have a President that puts the American people above his own reelection.
32 posted on 10/17/2004 4:30:52 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: billorites

33 posted on 10/17/2004 4:42:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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To: MadIvan
UBL is living with the rest of his family forever silent behind the wall of this close off society in Saudi Arabia.
34 posted on 10/17/2004 4:44:21 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker ("Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Those Who Threaten It.")
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To: smokescreensaver

He is going to WIN. How do I know? I don't I just have faith.


36 posted on 10/17/2004 4:51:02 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Beckwith
Actually, the video of him that came out after TB with his one arm incapacitated leads me to think that maybe he did escape wounded and has since died of the wound.

Still, no matter what the rationale, I can't imagine if he were dead that Bush would not reveal that during this election cycle. The stakes are just too high.

37 posted on 10/17/2004 5:02:12 AM PDT by LS
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To: Poincare

I am confident that Iran is next up after re-election. However, the only question is whether it is a military operation or a massive "inside" job/revolution.


38 posted on 10/17/2004 5:03:42 AM PDT by LS
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To: Twinkie
"*If* Kerry were elected, you may rest assured, as soon as he was briefed in his new capacity, he would probably spill the beans and further condemn President Bush for not telling it."

No he wouldn't... Kerry would be more likely to claim that he himself was responsible for the death of OBL... to further his hero status, doncha know.

39 posted on 10/17/2004 5:15:49 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Salamander

He's not pining, he's passed on. This terrorist is no more. He has ceased to be. He's expired and gone to meet its maker. This is a late terrorist. He's a stiff. Bereft of life, he rots in hell. If you hadn't nailed him to the perch, he would be pushing up the daisies. He's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This is an ex-terrorist!


40 posted on 10/17/2004 5:24:56 AM PDT by SonnyBubba
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