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1 posted on 10/15/2004 8:36:54 PM PDT by Salvation
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Bush


2 posted on 10/15/2004 8:37:48 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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3 posted on 10/15/2004 8:37:56 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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A Catholic should vote by their conscience.


4 posted on 10/15/2004 8:38:11 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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Three word answer: partial birth abortion (who stands where?)


5 posted on 10/15/2004 8:39:46 PM PDT by downwithsocialism
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Hurray for Leo! (That's my dad's name). Boo hiss to Valedez.... come to think of it, that's just one vowel away from a nasty oil spill that happened in Alaska some years ago.

THIS CATHOLIC is voting for Bush!


9 posted on 10/15/2004 8:42:55 PM PDT by Just Lori (Before you can win the Peace..... you have to win the WAR!)
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A "true" Catholic has no real choice in the matter. Kerry has violated most of the Church's teachings.


10 posted on 10/15/2004 8:43:16 PM PDT by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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Everyone should vote for the only clear choice, our President, George W. Bush.


18 posted on 10/15/2004 8:50:19 PM PDT by rennatdm
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I know some folks who are voting for Kerry because they think he's Irish Catholic.

Leni

24 posted on 10/15/2004 8:53:27 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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Leaving partisanship out of this, I have one genuine reply to any Catholic in turmoil on how to vote.

Pray.

Ask God to make His will known to you.

Seems simple, but too many never consider this option.


25 posted on 10/15/2004 8:53:41 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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This Catholic is voting for Bush. My daughter and her forty-two sisters are also voting for Bush.

That said, on swirling in my little mind, as a result of topics on several different threads..I was wondering, under Kerry's 100 Day Plan/National Service- One year mandatory service for High School Children.

What about homeschoolers? or children in private schools?
What if they assign you to some service that goes against your religious beliefs, or you oppose on moral grounds?

An example might be, "Suzie, you're assigned to help at an after school program for at risk kids", and what if one of the things they teach the at risk kids is contraceptive use, then what happens?



30 posted on 10/15/2004 8:56:47 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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Well, I can't really weigh in here, because I'm not Catholic. But then, neither is Kerry.
32 posted on 10/15/2004 8:57:36 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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"...claimed Kerry’s view of the Gospel is one of openness, tolerance, and inclusion"

Ro 14:12,13
Therefore every one of us shall render account to God for himself.
Let us not therefore judge one another any more.
But judge this rather, that you put not a stumbling block
or a scandal in your brother's way.

What kind of man can within the span of a single sentence
misquote scripture, commit heresy, and scandalize with a tone
the sins of another to the entire planet for political gain?

KERRY: "We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's being who she was born as."

Romans 9:8
That is, They which are the children of the flesh,
these are not the children of God:
but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Ec 7:30
Only this I have found, that GOD MADE man right, and he hath entangled himself with an infinity of questions. Who is as the wise man? and who hath known the resolution of the word?

36 posted on 10/15/2004 8:59:28 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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No serious Catholic can possibly vote for Kerry. We Catholics know that "Catholics" like Kerry, Kennedy, Daschle, and Pelosi, all of whom want the government to pay for abortions,are frauds and actually anti-Catholic.


37 posted on 10/15/2004 9:01:13 PM PDT by PajamaGuy
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Clearly, Bush is an evil Protestant who burns Catholics at the stake during the Annual Pancake Breakfast...so Kerry is the only choice.

< /sarcasm...and how I wish this tag wasn't necesary!>

40 posted on 10/15/2004 9:01:52 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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Mr. Valdez sounds like he's being closed-minded, intolerant, and exclusionary. It's always funny to see moral-liberals laud the freewill of perverts and criminals while decrying the freewill of neighbors, voters, pro-life politicians, judges, and juries.
45 posted on 10/15/2004 9:10:52 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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Not a Catholic myself, but I'm assuming that Catholics are Christians. Therefore, there are certain priorities for the Christian's life:
1. God
2. Spouse
3. Family
4. Country
5. Job

So...how can the line from Valedez stand "The senator knows how to keep his faith and his politics separate..."?

No brainer.


46 posted on 10/15/2004 9:12:49 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Drivers of SUVs without brush scratches should be horsewhipped! ><BCC>)
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GWB

This is a no brainer


49 posted on 10/15/2004 9:17:04 PM PDT by ivrybill
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It is very interesting that in the paragraph: "Valedez then claimed that moral theology is not stagnant nor was it set in stone a couple of thousands of years ago. He argued it is wrong to believe that we have already uncovered all the moral issues facing humanity. It is rather a constant search for the truth.

On the contrary, it certainly was set in Stone ever heard of the "Ten Commandments" ?!! --- I submit to you and the person taking Kerry the Reprobates position that " Thou shalt not kill" covers this quite adequately, thank you.

I am a "Traditional Catholic" and the Novous Ordo Catholics are being led into the practice of Heresy. I attend a Traditional Catholic Church, when I can. I say Rosary everyday, sometimes in Latin. I was in a Traditional Catholic Choir at the age of nine until I was seventeen. I study my faith. Earlier in my youth I didn't and the Church I grew up in and was the rock in my life was stolen. Rome has Lost the Faith!!

No matter how Mr. Kerry or anyone else tries to twist, the Laws of God will prevail. Placing the Laws of Man before the Laws of God is a sin I would not want to answer for. This is all coverd in the OLD Testament as to the punishment for those in positions of responsibility. Once again I refer you to Liviticus. The Laws God gave us to live by.

Read the Bible, all this and more is there for us.


66 posted on 10/15/2004 9:32:16 PM PDT by 26lemoncharlie (Defending the USA)
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We have all seen the mettle of the men who are fighting for the privilege to lead our Country and take us into the future. We have all seen and should know in our hearts, where our future could be with either of these guys. So, for anyone, Catholic or otherwise, if you're still having problems in deciding who should be our president, try this.

Look into the eyes of your children or grandchildren. The answer is easy and it's right there for you to see. There are no lies there, no politics and no political commercial's. There is nothing but the innocence of youth and much of why we even exist.

You won't need to study politics or debate with your friends. You won't need to see photos of 911. You won't need to see the beheading videos. You won't need to see photos of mass graves in Baghdad. You won't need to think of the liberty that is being given to millions in the Middle East. You won't need to sort out all the lies and propaganda that our politicians and the MSM force into our daily lives. You won't need to ponder the miracles of life and birth. You won't need to read articles of how the unborn, who only want a chance to live, feel pain as their bones are broken and their skulls are crushed. You won't need to think of any of this and much, much more.

All you really need to do is look into the eyes of our children. You will know who to vote for and you will know it all the way to your soul.


67 posted on 10/15/2004 9:32:27 PM PDT by Gator113
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Voter's Guide - on video
http://www.catholic.com/mm/video_vg1.asp

Voters Guide - Easy Print version
http://www.catholic.com/library/vg_print.asp

Voter's Guide - Latest ad appearing in USA Today (10/12/2004)
http://www.catholic.com/media/vg_ad_041012.pdf

Voter's Guide for Serious Christians
http://www.catholic.com/library/voters_guide_christian.asp
for our non-Catholic bretheren.


68 posted on 10/15/2004 9:33:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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