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Review Finds More Bush Military Records [nothing new]
AP ^ | October 15 2004 | Matt Kelley

Posted on 10/15/2004 6:47:16 PM PDT by plushaye

WASHINGTON - Weeks after Texas National Guard officials signed an oath swearing they had turned over all of President Bush (news - web sites)'s military records, independent examiners found more than two dozen pages of previously unreleased documents about Bush.

The two retired Army lawyers went through Texas files under an agreement between the Texas Guard and The Associated Press, which sued to gain access to the files. The 31 pages of documents turned over to AP Thursday night include orders for high-altitude training in 1972, less than three months before Bush abruptly quit flying as a fighter pilot.

The discovery is the latest in a series of embarrassments for Pentagon (news - web sites) and Texas National Guard officials who have repeatedly said they found and released all of Bush's Vietnam-era military files, only to belatedly discover more records. Those discoveries — nearly 100 pages, including Bush's pay records and flight logs — have been the result of freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP.

A Texas National Guard spokesman defended the continuing discoveries, saying Guard officials didn't find all of Bush's records because they are disorganized and in poor shape.

"These boxes are full of dirt and rat (excrement) and dead bugs. They have never been sitting in an uncontrolled climate," said Lt. Col. John Stanford. "It's a tough task to go through archives that were not set up in a way that you could easily go through them."

Two Texas officials had signed sworn affidavits insisting they had reviewed the files in those boxes and released copies of all that related to Bush's 1968-1973 Guard service, however.

Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard has come under scrutiny in this wartime election season. Some Democrats accuse Bush of shirking his guard duties in 1972 and 1973, when Bush didn't show up for training for as long as six months at a time. Democrats have contrasted nominee John Kerry (news - web sites)'s combat service in Vietnam with Bush's stateside service as an F-102A fighter pilot in Texas.

Bush says he fulfilled all of his service obligations and did nothing wrong. The newly released documents shed no new light on the most controversial periods of Bush's guard tenure.

Texas Tech University law school professors Richard D. Rosen and Calvin Lewis, both former Army lawyers, reviewed the boxes of files earlier this week under an agreement in the AP lawsuit. They found three other boxes with files from Bush's unit that previous searches did not turn up, Stanford said.

The newly released documents include a January 1972 order for Bush to attend three days of "physiological training" at Laredo Air Force Base in Texas. His Texas payroll and attendance records, released earlier, show Bush was credited for serving on active duty training for the three days involved.

At the time, pilots had to renew their high-altitude training every three years, said retired Maj. Gen. Paul A. Weaver, Jr., a former head of the Air National Guard. Bush's first altitude training came in 1969 when he was in pilot school at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia.

The training involved instruction about the effects of lack of oxygen on the body and exercises in which the pilots are exposed under supervision to the thin air of high altitudes. The purpose is to familiarize pilots with the effects of lack of oxygen so they can recognize them and take appropriate action to avoid blacking out at the controls.

The altitude training came six weeks before Bush began an unexplained string of flights on two-seat training jets and simulators. On April 12, 1972, Bush took his last flight in the single-seat F-102A fighter.

The future president skipped a required yearly medical exam and was ordered grounded as of August 1972. Bush says he missed the exam because he was planning to train with an Alabama Air National Guard unit which did not fly the F-102A.

Bush went to Alabama that year to work on the U.S. Senate campaign of a family friend.

Records show Bush did no guard training at all between mid-April and late October 1972. He's credited with six days of training in October and November 1972, presumably with the Alabama unit.

The Alabama unit's commanders say they never saw Bush or any paperwork showing he performed drills there. A January 1973 document says Bush got a dental examination at the Alabama unit's base.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; election; military
The weirdest comment: "These boxes are full of dirt and rat (excrement) and dead bugs. They have never been sitting in an uncontrolled climate," said Lt. Col. John Stanford.

Doesn't the military ever throw anything away??

Be still my heart. When I saw this headline, I was thinking "October Surprise" but it seems to be innocuous papers again.

1 posted on 10/15/2004 6:47:16 PM PDT by plushaye
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To: plushaye

don't be surprised if some friendly "career civil servant" is paid off to shove some damaging documents in the archives... this ain't over.


2 posted on 10/15/2004 6:52:29 PM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: plushaye

I am intrigued about the high-altitude training. I wonder what the ANG had in store for Bush...


3 posted on 10/15/2004 6:52:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (The real Kerry-Edwards election slogan: "Attacked at Home, ridiculed abroad.")
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To: plushaye
" freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP. "

To defend themselves against charges of being unfair AP is going to sue for Kerry's records after the election.

4 posted on 10/15/2004 6:53:12 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: plushaye
One paper describes Bush taking leave to become a "plumber" for then President Nixon. A letter from one Howard Hunt requested Lt Bush's presence.

Now I am surprised that has not been found yet
5 posted on 10/15/2004 6:53:39 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: plushaye

I think I got it, now.

The AP is the one doing the searching for the Bush records, while Hans Blix is the one tasked with looking for the Kerry records.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 6:53:46 PM PDT by kbeam
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To: plushaye
have been the result of freedom of information lawsuits filed in federal and Texas courts by AP

Why hasn't action like this been taken regarding traiter kerry? Is it because the traitor hasn't given the ok?

7 posted on 10/15/2004 6:55:56 PM PDT by gdc314
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To: gdc314
The question is not whether Bush was AWOL 20+ years ago--he wasn't. The question is why was Kerry AWOL from the Senate Intelligence Committee meetings for an entire year after the first World Trade Center bombing.
8 posted on 10/15/2004 6:57:36 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Army Air Corps

I imagine it is the routine altitude training that all folks who fly or travel on some military aircraft undergo. Even some civilians who work for the Air Force are required to have it if their work places them on certain type aircraft. It deals with what happens when there is a oxygen deficiency or an explosive decompression. Purely routine training.


9 posted on 10/15/2004 7:01:52 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: plushaye

I sense disappointment by author Matt Kelley that he didn't get the 'scoop of the year' because they didn't find anything damaging about the President's ANG service.


10 posted on 10/15/2004 7:04:01 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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I sense disappointment by author Matt Kelley that he didn't get the 'scoop of the year' because they didn't find anything damaging about the President's ANG service.

Yes, but were any of these new documents produced on a laser printer, using Word '72?

11 posted on 10/15/2004 7:10:14 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: ARROGANCE & IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: plushaye

Yawn!


12 posted on 10/15/2004 7:12:00 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: plushaye

Isn't it amazing how much time and energy are being expended on this stuff? Any time that something is mentioned about F'n's post-Vietnam trashing of the vets, we have to "look to the future," all the while W's past get dragged up every other day.


13 posted on 10/15/2004 7:19:53 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides

It's true. Kerry gets a pass while AP researchers risk getting Hantavirus from rat droppings going through these documents to glean anything anti-Bush. Amazing stupid IMHO.


14 posted on 10/15/2004 7:23:24 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: Perdogg

"Yawn!"

In this case 'yawn' is a good thing. We're getting into 'october surprise' territory and every new discovery is suspect.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 7:25:37 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: plushaye

The only possible Demonrat OS will be the release of the classified Abu Ghraib photos.


16 posted on 10/15/2004 7:29:49 PM PDT by Perdogg (Dubya - Right Man, Right Job, at the Right Time!)
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To: plushaye

Remember, Hillary Waddles Krinton getting a pass on those files for her Enemy's List?


17 posted on 10/15/2004 7:45:11 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: plushaye

So now all the Lamestream press get to mention"questions about Bush's TANG service" (wink, nod) for the 57th time while ignoring the fact that Bush has authorized the release of all his miltary records (hence AP's standing in court for it's FOIA suits) ............. while the secretive Kerry has refused to release his..


18 posted on 10/15/2004 8:04:55 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry: He began by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class is rarely seen.)
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