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Persuadable voters give Kerry high marks (read on...)
AP ^ | 10/15

Posted on 10/15/2004 12:22:06 AM PDT by ambrose

Persuadable voters give Kerry high marks

By WILL LESTER

The Associated Press

10/15/2004, 3:02 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — Persuadable voters watching the presidential debates tended to give higher marks to Democrat John Kerry than President Bush, but many sound reluctant to make a final decision in the presidential race.

"In the debates, Kerry's intelligence came through. He just seemed really thoughtful," said Mindy Kershner of San Francisco, who is still not ready to commit. "I probably won't decide until I actually vote."

The three presidential debates, including the final one Wednesday night, have not answered questions some of these voters still have about the candidates.

Undecided Maryland voter Thomas Cox said: "Kerry is too liberal and Bush is too conservative and never the twain shall meet. We should have 'neither of the above' and try it again."

About one in five voters are persuadable, according to AP-Ipsos polling. This includes about 5 percent undecided and another 15 percent who are leaning toward a candidate but haven't made a final decision.

For those persuadable voters who tuned in, the debates offered an extensive look at the two leading presidential candidates.

For 83-year-old Dorothy Van Asdale, of Yuma, Ariz., the debates offered a firsthand look at a Democratic candidate she knew about mostly through the narrative of conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh.

"I listen to Rush Limbaugh when I'm in my car," she said. "We can only get one radio station really clear around here. It's so negative. I never heard a good thing about Kerry."

But when she tuned in to the presidential debates, she "liked Kerry's presence. I liked the way he spoke."

A CBS News poll of 211 persuadable voters after the debates found many liked what they heard from the Democrat. Asked who won the debate, 39 percent of the persuadable voters said Kerry, 25 percent said Bush and 36 percent said they tied. The number of voters who thought Kerry has clear positions on the issues, doubled after the debate to six in 10. Women were more likely than men in the CBS News poll to give Kerry high marks. The CBS poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 7 percentage points.

In two other post-debate polls, Kerry was judged the winner in the CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll and Bush and Kerry were tied in an ABC News poll. It may be several days before national and state polls offer more of a long range picture.

Michele Janka, 53, of Great Falls, Va., said she was leaning toward Kerry but now she's undecided again because "Kerry has too many big spending plans."

"If President Bush would fire Mr. (Paul) Wolfowitz and Mr. (Douglas) Feith, I would vote for him. They have hijacked his foreign policy," the businesswoman said, referring to Wolfowitz, the U.S. deputy secretary of defense, and Feith, the undersecretary of defense for policy.

"The debates were really a lot of rhetoric," said Kenneth Whitman, a 63-year-old resident of La Follette, Tenn., who leans towards Bush. "I don't think they really explain a whole lot to the public one way or another. I think what will do it will be just gut feeling when we get right down to the election."

For some in this voter group, long-range concerns override debate results.

"Really, it boils down to one thing for me personally. I feel more comfortable with Bush at this particular time," said Wayne Moser, 64, of Washington Crossing, Pa., "Kerry scares me because of his legislative record. Kerry's got to win me over and he didn't."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; kerry; swingvote; thirddebate; undecidedvote
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1 posted on 10/15/2004 12:22:07 AM PDT by ambrose
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Persuadable voters watching the presidential debates tended to give higher marks to Democrat John Kerry than President Bush, but many sound reluctant to make a final decision in the presidential race

You can just sense the anguish coming from the AP reporter as he wrote that line...

2 posted on 10/15/2004 12:23:09 AM PDT by ambrose (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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Michele Janka, 53, of Great Falls, Va., said she was leaning toward Kerry but now she's undecided again because "Kerry has too many big spending plans."

Very Good, Michele.


3 posted on 10/15/2004 12:26:28 AM PDT by TFine80 (DK'S)
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To: ambrose

There's not a voter alive who can accurately
describe ANY of Kerry's plans. Not one.


4 posted on 10/15/2004 12:26:28 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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The AP does a lot of this reporting based on anecdote in which they report a trend out of their wishful thinking and support it with a few select quotes or anecdotes. Then they include one opposing quote/anecdote, so that the bias isn't overwhelmingly apparent.

The AP is just propaganda to influence the media's focus. It's incredible.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 12:33:11 AM PDT by TFine80 (DK'S)
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--- Feith? Neo-con conspracies... No way this woman is persuadable at all.

"If President Bush would fire Mr. (Paul) Wolfowitz and Mr. (Douglas) Feith, I would vote for him. They have hijacked his foreign policy," the businesswoman said, referring to Wolfowitz, the U.S. deputy secretary of defense, and Feith, the undersecretary of defense for policy.


8 posted on 10/15/2004 12:35:25 AM PDT by TFine80 (DK'S)
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There's not a voter alive who can accurately describe ANY of Kerry's plans. Not one.

Pshaw, that's easy. He plans to re-create "Camalot". It will be all about image. Beyond that, I haven't a clue. :o)

9 posted on 10/15/2004 12:37:25 AM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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"Mr. (Douglas) Feith"

No one that knows that name is persuadable. No one.


10 posted on 10/15/2004 12:37:48 AM PDT by HarryCaul
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To: GoLightly

You're not alone.
Kerry hasn't a clue either. :)


11 posted on 10/15/2004 12:38:07 AM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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True, but I bet he already has the list of minions he'll hire to do all of the work.


12 posted on 10/15/2004 12:40:21 AM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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"'I listen to Rush Limbaugh when I'm in my car,' [Dorothy Van Asdale] said... 'It's so negative. I never heard a good thing about Kerry.'"

Oh, well then, Dotty, by all means allow me to say something good about Kerry: He probably won't become President.

13 posted on 10/15/2004 12:40:28 AM PDT by Fabozz
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"In the debates, Kerry's intelligence came through. He just seemed really thoughtful," said Mindy Kershner of San Francisco, who is still not ready to commit. "I probably won't decide until I actually vote."


Those swing voters of San Francisco are going to decide the election. LOL


14 posted on 10/15/2004 12:40:29 AM PDT by Reaganez
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15 posted on 10/15/2004 12:49:20 AM PDT by binger
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Lol, feel the grief and anguish.

Kerry is toast. My daughter called yesterday wanting to know if it was too late to register and vote. She and her bf watched the debate and decided that Kerry is a POS. If they're getting off their butts to vote for Bush, how many more will do the same?


16 posted on 10/15/2004 12:58:03 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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Mary Kirschner from SF said I MAY NOT DECIDE UNTIL I ACTUALLY VOTE.

I dont know about anybody else, but I sure dont want to be in line behind her.

Its tough enough sometimes in my local grocery checkout line.

17 posted on 10/15/2004 1:00:37 AM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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Twenty percent are really "undecided"! Give me a break, talking about making the undecideds more important than they really are.


18 posted on 10/15/2004 1:01:24 AM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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For 83-year-old Dorothy Van Asdale, of Yuma, Ariz., the debates offered a firsthand look at a Democratic candidate she knew about mostly through the narrative of conservative radio commentator Rush Limbaugh.

"I listen to Rush Limbaugh when I'm in my car," she said. "We can only get one radio station really clear around here. It's so negative. I never heard a good thing about Kerry."

But when she tuned in to the presidential debates, she "liked Kerry's presence. I liked the way he spoke."


Rush got this lady on the line. She revealed that she voted for Gore in the last election and for Clinton in the prior two elections.
19 posted on 10/15/2004 11:47:24 AM PDT by EveningStar
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The shallowness of anyone who would vote for someone because he "looked presidential" is mind boggling. She will vote against Bush because she doesn't like his record on illegal immigration but admits she hasn't a clue what Kerry would do about it. Sheesh!


20 posted on 10/15/2004 11:50:24 AM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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