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Judge rules in Ohio ballot-casting case
seattlepi.com ^ | October 14, 2004 | THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 10/14/2004 11:37:57 AM PDT by 11th_VA

TOLEDO, Ohio -- In a victory for the Democrats, a federal judge ruled Thursday that Ohio voters who show up at the wrong polling place on Election Day can still cast ballots as long as they are in the county where they are registered.

U.S. District Judge James Carr blocked a directive from Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, a Republican, who recently announced that poll workers must send voters to their correct precinct.

The judge said that voters who show up at the wrong polling place after moving without notifying the elections board, and those whose names cannot be found on the registration rolls, should be able to cast provisional ballots there.

Denying any voter the right to a provisional vote will erode confidence in the election and lessen the incentive to vote, the judge said.

"Lessened participation at the polls diminishes the vitality of our democracy," Carr said.

The decision is a victory for the Ohio Democratic Party and a coalition of labor and voter rights group, which said Blackwell's order discriminates against the poor and minorities.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: election; lurchgate; napalminthemorning; provisionalvote; rats; votefraud
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To: ecophem

Just curious, if you registered to vote while a student in ohio, did you comply with the law and file (and Pay) income taxes in Ohio. Wonder if these nucklehead visiting student liberals in Ohio that are trying to impact a battleground state are going to pay their "FAIR SHARE" of taxes.


101 posted on 10/14/2004 7:10:59 PM PDT by scannell
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To: scannell

Yes. The appellate court could consider this on an emergency basis, if it chooses to. There's not too much time, though. It would definitely need to be heard next week.


102 posted on 10/14/2004 7:11:39 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: 11th_VA

Are they going to cross check to make sure the person doesn't vote multiple times---at their registered polling place and the other the one or five they appear at?! Do they have to produce a bill or something to show they ostensibly live in the new district?

I can see what the judge means by "vitality" of our democracy.


103 posted on 10/14/2004 7:16:36 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: fellowpatriot
Democrats aren't the only ones who vote.

Are you pretending not to understand this is a dem strategy to get to vote multiple times?

104 posted on 10/14/2004 7:18:04 PM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: dartuser
Your # 48:

GOOD IDEA!

105 posted on 10/14/2004 7:25:03 PM PDT by T Ruth
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To: scannell

I worked full-time and yes, I paid city, county, state taxes, federal, et al. I don't know about the other knucklehead visiting student liberals in Ohio - most of the students at my college WERE from Ohio. I lived in Ohio for 2 years before starting college - stayed another five - then return to my home state.


106 posted on 10/14/2004 8:09:02 PM PDT by ecophem
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To: muskah

Yeah, the provisional ballots are a pain in the butt for the resolution board who has to sort them out. To actually force this kind of thing really isn't that good for the Democrats, because you would quickly catch on to a pattern of illegal voting.

The worst case would be a Dem dominated county, at least here in Iowa the county in the majority has the majority on the resolution board. You would likely then be outvoted in a Dem county, meaning a court fight, which is expensive and the decsion comes long after the election.


107 posted on 10/14/2004 8:45:28 PM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: flutters

And that is a crime in the making. Ohioans can vote without ID. Dems just might be Voting early and voting often. I think they've been doing that for years here. This year it is out of control.


108 posted on 10/14/2004 8:51:45 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: ecophem

Well then you were a bona fide resident. The Knuckleheads that I refer to are the ones in the local press that bragged of registering to vote in Ohio while at Ohio State University so they could make an impact on a close state as opposed to there home states that were "not contested." Fine, they can declare residency, but the law says that all residents must pay statutory income taxes in Ohio as a resident.


109 posted on 10/14/2004 9:15:49 PM PDT by scannell
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To: scannell

Ya know, they just have more energy than me - not to mention how dishonest it is. Where did you see this?

In my home state, you only have to be a "resident" for 30 days as far as voting privileges. Qualifying for financial aid as a resident, however was a year in Ohio and here as well. I don't remember how long I had to be in Ohio before qualifying as a "resident."

The taxes coming out of my check freaked out me the entire time I was there - and then there was this thing with school distric tax....I worked in one city's school district and lived in another city's SD where the tax rate was higher......


110 posted on 10/14/2004 9:52:49 PM PDT by ecophem
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To: scannell

Oh and lookie here...."bragged of registering to vote in Ohio while at Ohio State University" - I'll find it, then.

OSU is about football.


111 posted on 10/14/2004 9:54:26 PM PDT by ecophem
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To: 11th_VA
That'll come in handy for "Democrats" who want to vote more than once. There's one judge who needs to be removed, and all his other rulings reviewed.
George W. Bush will be reelected by a margin of at least ten per cent

Election 2004 threads on FR

112 posted on 10/14/2004 10:53:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: HostileTerritory
"Provisional ballots where you attach your personal information. If it was found later that you had voted in more than one place your ballot would not count.

This comes from legislation passed by Congress after the last election."

How does one determine whether to disallow a Democrat ballot or a Republican ballot when the system sanctifies the secret ballot?

Are the ballots marked in some way to enable them to be matched to the person who voted, and if so, what then about the principle of the secret ballot?

Just asking. I am not a US voter.

113 posted on 10/15/2004 4:29:51 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Martins kid

Where - anywhere in the U.S. - are we required to show ID in order to vote? "Voting early and voting often" cannot be accurate. I want you to tell me how it's done so I can do it.


114 posted on 10/15/2004 4:59:00 AM PDT by ecophem
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To: ecophem

spefically I remember one stating that they lived in Conneticut and that Conneticut was a sure thing for Kerry so they wanted to vote in Ohio where it would mean more. They probably haven't thought that they would be liable for taxes on more than just withheld wages in Ohio, but on wages in Conneticut and any interest or dividends they earn this year (in total).


115 posted on 10/15/2004 6:34:10 AM PDT by scannell
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To: ecophem

You must be a Dem


116 posted on 10/15/2004 7:25:51 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

But you didn't answer my question - where is it necessary to show ID when voting?


117 posted on 10/15/2004 9:35:00 AM PDT by ecophem
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To: 11th_VA

Rush discussing this word-for-word now.


118 posted on 10/15/2004 10:53:07 AM PDT by King David (Kerry can't take a punch... and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth got the gloves on.)
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To: 11th_VA
The judge doesn't need no stinkin' law. He was probably appointed by a president who used a litmus test.

Fraud-R-Us.
119 posted on 10/15/2004 10:54:39 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: djpg

This election, if close, will not be decided before 2005. Those who commit fraud should be jailed.


120 posted on 10/15/2004 10:56:43 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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