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Buchanan: Bush had 'disasterous' first debate
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Wednesday, October 13, 2004 | Chris Foreman

Posted on 10/13/2004 1:11:03 PM PDT by Willie Green

If President Bush fails in his re-election bid, the enduring image of his campaign will be the scowls on his face while Democratic nominee John Kerry answered questions during the debate at the University of Miami last month, according to one of Bush's opponents in 2000.

"It was the single most disastrous performance of any president at the debate level," Patrick J. Buchanan, the 2000 Reform Party presidential candidate, said Tuesday night at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. "He had the chance to put it away."

Buchanan spoke at Fisher Auditorium for the college's "Ideas and Issues" lecture series, which is sponsored by the IUP Center for Student Life. The conservative commentator, who also sought the Republican nomination for president in 1992 and 1996, lambasted the two-party system in America for generating candidates who are "two wings of the same bird of prey."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: firstdebate; goawaypatgoaway; gopatgo
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Without a Ross Perot or Pat Buchanan in the running,
these Republicrat debates are a total farce.

Friends, neither Beltway party is going to drain this swamp, because to them it is not a swamp at all, but a protected wetland and their natural habitat. They swim in it, feed in it, spawn in it.

-- Patrick J. Buchanan, "A Plague on Both Your Houses"

Go Pat Go!!!

1 posted on 10/13/2004 1:11:03 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Willie Green is desperate.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 1:12:17 PM PDT by Elvis van Foster
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To: Willie Green
Go Pat Go!!!

Where's he going?

3 posted on 10/13/2004 1:13:15 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Willie Green

You kind of remind me a C.S. Lewis quote in which he says that a man starved to death because he disdained cutlery, but was too dainty to use his hands.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 1:13:26 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swill leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Willie Green
Yes the first debate was a disaster for Bush. EXCEPT, the time he spent comforting Hurricane victims may have won him the State of Florida.

By winning Florida, Bush has a ton of options to win and those do not necessarily include OH or PA.

5 posted on 10/13/2004 1:14:00 PM PDT by zarf (Remember the Gator Flop!!)
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To: Willie Green

C'mon Willie. Pat wandered off the reservation in 1992. He has become irrelevant.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 1:16:06 PM PDT by RockinRight (John Kerry is the wrong candidate, for the wrong country, at the wrong time)
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To: Willie Green

Hey Pat, still dating Lenora Fulani?


7 posted on 10/13/2004 1:16:51 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: Willie Green

Buchanan's analysis is correct, but that doesn't make him helpful.


8 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:43 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Willie Green

Interesting quote, especially when you realize that very few people are more ingrained in the "Beltway culture" than Pat Buchanan is.


9 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:49 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: MisterRepublican

You know Lenora's not a bad slice. I haven't been able to get a handle on her booty though.


10 posted on 10/13/2004 1:18:10 PM PDT by zarf (Remember the Gator Flop!!)
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To: Willie Green

Pat Buchanan? Didn't he used to be a conservative?


11 posted on 10/13/2004 1:18:38 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Willie Green

Willie when was this speech? Didn't Buchanan say all over MSNBC saying Bush wiped up the floor with Kerry in the second debate?


12 posted on 10/13/2004 1:19:07 PM PDT by ex-snook (Vote for someone who represents your views or your views will be ignored.)
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To: OpusatFR
You kind of remind me a C.S. Lewis quote in which he says that a man starved to death because he disdained cutlery, but was too dainty to use his hands.

"When pitchforks are outlawed, only outlaws will have pitchforks."

FMCDH

13 posted on 10/13/2004 1:19:51 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
Pat! PAT!

Get ahold of yourself, man!

How many times did YOU run for President?

How many times did YOU win?

14 posted on 10/13/2004 1:20:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Willie Green

"It was the single most disastrous performance of any president at the debate level," Patrick J. Buchanan, the 2000 Reform Party presidential candidate, said Tuesday night at Indiana University of Pennsylvania. "He had the chance to put it away."

Of ANY President??? You must have QUITE a memory Pat.

But he more than made up for it in the second debate, and will clean Kerry's clock even ore in the third debate because good always triumphs over evil.

Now, be a good little boy Pat, and go back and play with your isolationist toys, and George Bush will keep the big bad Al Quaida from disturbing you.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 1:21:17 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Willie Green

Buchanan is an odd bird. I listened to him rail on the war in Iraq for a solid hour and then encourage everyone to vote for Bush. I find it hard to reconcile the two, and I don't think Buchanan did a good job of it either.


16 posted on 10/13/2004 1:22:34 PM PDT by Egregious Philbin
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To: Willie Green

Pat Buchanan's last job outside of the Beltway was....?


17 posted on 10/13/2004 1:23:48 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: ex-snook
Willie when was this speech?

Last night.

For education and discussion only. Not for commercial use.

Bush, Kerry Visionless, Buchanan Says

By KELSEY VOLKMANN,
Indiana Gazette Staff Writer
October 13, 2004

Former presidential candidate and conservative political analyst Pat Buchanan said he laughed out loud while watching the first presidential debate in Miami.

President Bush's scowls looked like a student who'd be held after school and was making faces behind the principal's back, except that 65 million viewers were watching, Buchanan told the audience gathered to see him speak Tuesday night at Indiana University of Pennsylvania's Fisher Auditorium.

"It was the single most disastrous" debate he'd ever seen, he said.

"Bush came with 30 minutes of material for a 90-minute debate," said Buchanan, who ran for president in 2000 on the Reform Party ticket. "He could have come out on top - he was on the road to victory - had he simply tied in that debate."

Buchanan also dished out criticism of the Iraq war, calling it "utterly unnecessary and unwise."

Al-Qaida is responsible for 9/11, and Saddam Hussein had no role in it, he said.

Buchanan doesn't believe Saddam would have used weapons of mass destruction against the United States either, saying Saddam had his chance in the first Gulf War and refrained because he knew he'd be "blown to kingdom come."

"How is (Saddam) a threat?" he asked. "He's an evil thug, not a fool. You invade Iraq and you inherit your own West Bank."

Buchanan's criticism was not limited to the president. The nationally syndicated newspaper columnist often faulted both presidential candidates, saying both men are running campaigns without vision and both support unsustainable foreign policies.

"The two parties' candidates are like two wings on the same bird of prey," he said. "Both are funded to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars by the same corporations, so they are responsive to the same groups of people."

He also cut up John Edwards' performance in the vice presidential debate against Dick Cheney last week.

Buchanan didn't like Edwards' "fast-talking lawyer" approach and likened him to a toy collie yapping on a riverbank around a bull alligator sleeping with his eyes open.

He continued to lambaste the Democrats: Kerry lost credibility by not responding sooner to questions raised about his military record by Swift Boat Vietnam veterans, Buchanan said, casting a cloud of suspicion over the Massachusetts senator.

He thought it a "colossal blunder" for Kerry to call Bush's "Coalition of the Willing," "the Coalition of the Bribed and Coerced." That's not the way to get more nations onboard, he said.

At the meet-and-greet afterward, Jeff Burk, an IUP student, shook Buchanan's hand, shared his frustration with both candidates and asked for advice.

Buchanan plans to vote for Bush because of the possibility of U.S. Supreme Court Justices retiring in the next four years, and he wants Republicans to fill those seats, he told the junior political science student. He also advised Burk to vote for who he thinks would do the best job leading the country.

For Burk, that's neither candidate, and he's not alone in his opinion.

Buchanan expressed America's widespread dissatisfaction with its options earlier that evening.

"America wants a change, but it's not sure it wants Kerry," he said.

Buchanan's visit was part of IUP's Ideas and Issues lecture series, sponsored by the Center for Student Life.

Students can pick up free tickets starting today at the Hadley Union Building ticket office for the series' second speaker, filmmaker and author Michael Moore, who will speak at Memorial Field House on Oct. 26 at 8 p.m.

To accommodate the expected turnout, the appearance by the "Fahrenheit 9/11" director will also be shown through a live televised feed in Fisher Auditorium.

Any remaining tickets will be made available to the public starting Friday.


18 posted on 10/13/2004 1:29:58 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Willie, I think you missed the rather "bong over the head" type statement that Lewis used from time to time.

Do you want me to explain his point, or would it be absolutely wasted on you?


19 posted on 10/13/2004 1:30:41 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Let me repeat this: the web means never having to swill leftist garbage again. Got it?)
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To: Willie Green
"It was the single most disastrous performance of any president at the debate level,"

Ahhh, Mr. Buchanan, the master of hyperbole.

20 posted on 10/13/2004 1:31:41 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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