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Vanity?: Has Kerry turned Ohio Blue?
Real Clear Politics, et al. | 10-13-04 | TitansAFC

Posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:34 AM PDT by TitansAFC

from RealClearPolitics.Com:

Ohio: 2004 Electoral Votes: 20 | 2000 Results: Bush 50.0, Gore 46.5, Nader 2.5 (Bush +3.5) Poll | Date Sample MoE Bush Kerry Nader Spread RCP Average | 10/2-10/11 - - 46.7 48.7 1.0 Kerry +2.0 Chicago Tribune | 10/8-10/11 500 LV 4.4 45 49 - Kerry +4 ARG | 10/4-10/6 600 LV 4.0 47 48 1 Kerry +1 Survey USA | 10/2-10/4 761 LV 3.6 48 49 - Kerry +1

My question to you Freepers is: Has Kerry now taken Ohio from Bush?

This is an important question, because it could mean the election. Yes, I know Bush can win without Ohio, providing he doesn't lose any other states and wins Wisconsin. But it would sure be hard, and very much against history.

I thought the Bush camp had considered Ohio trending Republican. Did one debate really change all of that? With the death trap, set-up debate tonight that will almost certainly be a puff piece for Kerry and an uphill battle for Bush (we all know that Democrats can outbid Republicans on the political auctioning block -- it's just their nature), is Ohio going to be the reason Kerry wins on November 2nd?

You Ohio Freepers, I've heard about vote fraud efforts, etc. I just don't want to believe the doom-and-gloomers, but it sure looks like Kerry is pulling ahead in this key battleground state! Is Ohio really in danger of turning blue? The last 4-5 polls sure seem to say so.....

Somebody reassure me that it isn't so!!!!


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1 posted on 10/13/2004 10:01:34 AM PDT by TitansAFC
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To: TitansAFC

No.


2 posted on 10/13/2004 10:02:26 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: TitansAFC
See this.
3 posted on 10/13/2004 10:02:43 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: TitansAFC

Yeah right. Bush +4 or more right now.


4 posted on 10/13/2004 10:03:36 AM PDT by OneTimeLurker
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To: TitansAFC

Trends are trends. And the only trend that matters is November 2.
Too many blue-collar union thugs in OH for Kerry to not launch a real war there.
However, if anything pulls it out for Bush, it will be the suburban vote.


5 posted on 10/13/2004 10:03:41 AM PDT by Galtoid
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To: TitansAFC

Not yet, but watch out for the voter fraud on election day.


6 posted on 10/13/2004 10:04:56 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: TitansAFC

You Ohio Freepers, I've heard about vote fraud efforts

You mean that Franklin County has more registered voters than people living there. Cuyahoga county is close to 100% registered to vote. I think there might be something to that.......


7 posted on 10/13/2004 10:05:02 AM PDT by MeSpikeLibs
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To: TitansAFC
If by Blue you mean the incumbent is going to win sort of. Ohio was never going Kerry anyway.
8 posted on 10/13/2004 10:05:48 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: TitansAFC; All

Read the comments and use the links (e.g., Strategic Vision) provided at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1243891/posts


9 posted on 10/13/2004 10:06:24 AM PDT by DrDeb
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To: TitansAFC

The Chicago Trib, of all people, has the President up by 2% in their latest poll. They generally overstate Democrats by 4%, and understate Republicans at the same time by 5.5%....


I would say the president is doing much better than advertised in the Buckeye State....


10 posted on 10/13/2004 10:07:11 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Rudi Bahktiar is hot!!!! Too bad she works for CNN.....)
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To: LS

LS, your outlook is needed on this thread.


11 posted on 10/13/2004 10:07:38 AM PDT by IrishGOP (I don't like John Kerry, because John Kerry is going to get me killed.)
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To: TitansAFC

Jesus, what is this, the 10th posting about Ohio and RCP today!


12 posted on 10/13/2004 10:07:45 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: TitansAFC
Has Kerry now taken Ohio from Bush?
If so, then the game is over unless we can get it back. Imagine Iraq lost, Israel abandoned, the Euro-axis exultant, the War on Terror discredited, the Jihadis victorious. Let that grim image stir you both to prayer and to action. Our worst enemies, it seems, are not to the front but to our rear.
13 posted on 10/13/2004 10:07:50 AM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: TitansAFC

If people don't stop taking every poll result as the beginning of the end of the world they are going to drive themselves crazy by election day. Many of these polls are put out by liberal news outlets that, whether they admit it or not, just want to demoralize the Republican base. Since turnout is the most important factor in Bush's reelection we should use these poll numbers to energize ourselves to get out there and vote! Early and often...


14 posted on 10/13/2004 10:08:09 AM PDT by Russ
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To: TitansAFC

We'll know November 3. In the mean time, it's best to assume Kerry *could* take it if we become too complacent.


15 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:03 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: TitansAFC
I thought the Bush camp had considered Ohio trending Republican. Did one debate really change all of that? NO NO and NO.
16 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:06 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: TitansAFC
See this:
Date          Poll              Sample  MoE  Bush  Kerry  Nader 
10/09 - 10/11 Strategic Vision  801 L   3.0  51.0  43.0   1.0 
10/09 - 10/11 Strategic Vision  801 L   3.0  51.0  45.0   --
I'm not sure how Kerry picks up 2 percent when Nader isn't included, since he only gets 1 when he is, but there you have it.
17 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:44 AM PDT by cosulo res publica (Latest Polls?)
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To: MeSpikeLibs

And that's only the major stuff you hear about.

The word on the street is that the limo liberals in the suburbs who have kids going to school out of state are having the kids register to vote there by using a utility bill as proof of residence and asking for absentee ballets from Ohio.

The kicker is the states that the kids will be voting from. PA, MI, IN, IL and WI. Any of those look to anyone else like key battleground states?


18 posted on 10/13/2004 10:10:48 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: TitansAFC

We've been over this. You have a Strategic Vision showing Bush up. You have a Chicago Tribune with a TEN-POINT SWING the other way. Don't buy it. RCP takes the most recent poll, even if it's done by James Carville and Paul Begala.


19 posted on 10/13/2004 10:11:39 AM PDT by LS
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To: TitansAFC

I see more Bush/Cheney signs & bumper stickers in our area of Ohio than the other guys.


20 posted on 10/13/2004 10:13:50 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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