Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Kerry Lost Security Clearance!
Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerrys Navy security clearance.
Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.
Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.
Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.
Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the Peace Talks. While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.
These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.
Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didnt want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerrys security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, Lieutenant Kerry wasnt cleared to know what time it was!
The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Today, he couldnt get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!
Kerry's obviously been in place a long time.
Without confirmation this rumor is worthless.
Gutless RINOs strike again.
Back then, and presumably now, every officer had a background check and a security clearance. It was either Secret, or Top Secret. I've forgotten. Very routine. Even I had such a clearance. (Never needed it.) But for any particular bit of info, you still had to have a need to know in order to see it.
Problem is, this could break and no one under the age of 40 would think it was relevant.
Prehaps this is why he had his discharge reworked later on?
Please identify where exactly in the Constitution it requires one to get a security clearance before they can be elected President?
If Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky, Jane Fonda, etc. were elected President, they'd all have full access to all intel data. Because they're President.
My new tagline. :0)
Well, see 116. Just like any position, my understanding was you have to be able to be cleared for (re-)classification.
If his clearance was revoked, then how can he be cleared (again) to be eligible for the job of President?
At one point -- in defense of the Cambodia story, I think -- his campaign floated the story that he had been CIA. Plot thickens.
He was on the committee during Clinton's term
Isn't that the time frame of the story of getting his discharge papers changed ??
http://www.nysun.com/article/3107
Mystery Surrounds Kerry's Navy Discharge
Pissing on or burning the flag is not illegal. Disrespectful to a major degree but not illegal.
Yes.. We need a link..
The Constitution didn't say I had to have clearance for the work I performed at Pratt Whitney, does it? Boy, all that hassle for nothing.
ping
All elected officials also have TS clearances. They need not have been vetted. I can't think of one person in the Clinton transition team who would have qualified for a Confidential clearance.
That crap you just spewed has been a comfortable falsehood for three decades now, and it's our turn now. Stand by, my little friend, because what's going to hit you on 2 November is just a down payment.
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