Posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:15 PM PDT by tazannie
I hope this is good
If this is the story....and someone on another thread he would ahve had to have done something outrageous and there would be a trail somewhere so it is doubtful this is the story....it will get a huge amount of press, even on the mainstream networks.
It would not be a story that could be buried.
It would go from the SUn to Drudge to The Note and then hit the evening news.
Whatever the story, I pray and hope it truly is explosive and Navy vet is not just thinking it is based on his personal involvement in researching the info making him think it is bigger than it really is.
If the story is about Kerry's military service, I am sure CBS and Dan Rather will give it at least as much time as they gave Pres Bush and the forged ANG docs...LOL..
considering the source in this story, perhaps this deserves breaking news status...
Just guessing that this source had proof of his statements but was looking for more, to cross the t's and dot the i's so to speak. He seems to know what he's going to be up against when it does come out. This sounds like something really bad for Kerry and other Dems unlike anything we've seen before. Something that would make only a total moron vote for Kerry, meaning mostly just his hardcore base and no more.
bump for later
Also could be why President Bush stopped preparing for the debate with coaches days ago. :)
BTTT meant "back to the thread" - meaning get back to the topic. For those of us who like to stray...
For some posters BTTT is appropriate....lol..
BTTT= bump to the top
I know, but even before Clinton was first elected, lots of smarmy stuff was being exposed about him, which seemed to make him even more popular with his fans. I think the Dems haven't decided what they want to be when they grow up, they picked another candidate with lots of baggage, and this one has absolutely no core.
Not even CLOSE.
he parses well...nothing about a GENERAL discharge...
Frankly, after his Senate testimony alone, that's all he deserved.
Here is another very interesting post by NavyChief on the SwiftVets forum...
Joining this website in August and throwing my two cents worth into the discussion surrounding the SBVT controversy, I had no idea what a small world this would be.
I worked on the US/Russia Joint Commission on POW/MIA with various Senators, Congressmen, STATE and DOD officials for 4 years. This is where my first encounter with Senator Kerry came from. His office was aloof in our work on this important issue. They refused to participate in our findings and hard work to account for American POW/MIAS from WWII, Korea, Cold War, and Vietnam -- even though Senator Kerry was appointed the Co-Chairman of the Vietnam War Working Group by President Bush Sr in 1992.
As you can see, my two worlds came together while working with the SBVT and the POW/MIA issue. And now I rejoice in the union of the SBVT and the POWs for Truth. This issue is tying my fate to this cause even more every day.
Strangely, one of the very incidents (13 Mar 69) of which we've been working so deligently on in the past two months, has even more significance than I thought. You see, the USS WASHTENAW COUNTY (LST-1166) was one of the main focus for our attention in nailing down the timeline of what happened that day. Yet, miles away another little known ship, USS SPHINX (ARL-24) was providing its support to the war effort. Many years later, in 1988, the USS SPHINX became my home for a year in Central America. She was very special to me as my first tour on a Navy Ship. Again, the irony of the SPHINX and WASHTENAW COUNTY would cross again, but only known to myself. Our homeport was Rodman Naval Base, Panama City, Panama. Unbeknowst to me at the time, the large LST that sat 100 yards away from our pier was the WASHTENAW COUNTY. She had been sold to a Panamanian company and was sitting right there all along. Of course, she had no markings of the USS at the time. Nor, did she have her previous glorious coloring of "Haze Grey".
I had even reported at one time that the ship was obviously collecting intelligence on the incoming traffic into the Panama Canal. My Commanding Officer was a little surprised by this as we all believed at the time that she was being run by the Panamanians, at a time previous to our invasion of that country. Now I find out that she was being used by our own CIA, which I've worked with in the past. It's a small world.
Very few people know of which I'm about to divulge regarding my time with the POW/MIA office. I have been waiting to tell someone about this, since I've been working with the actions in Vietnam for the past several months.
In 1995, shortly after I returned from a tour at the American Embassy in Moscow, Russia, our office received information that the Polish government had compiled a list of some 12,500 names of Americans MIA from WWII, Korea, Cold War and Vietnam. You should remember that Poland was a Soviet Union satellite country for many years. They were quick to capitalize on their freedom from the Soviet Union and it's downfall in late 1991. The Polish government had been in charge of the IRCR mission, which saw many of our POWs in captivity in Vietnam and had access to them when our own government did not. They claimed to know the disposition of these 12,500 American servicemen and were willing to give us the information if done secretly. During this timeframe, President Clinton wanted Poland, Czech Republic and Hungary to join the NATO alliance to bolster his legacy. In an effort to slow down their joining NATO and use the POW/MIA issue to our advantage and get this list, Senator Robert Smith (NH-R) managed to place a stipulation in the Treaty allowing these countries to join NATO. Senator Smith had been doing most of the work as another Co-Chairman of the Vietnam War Working Group, while Senator Kerry's absense was felt keenly during those years of the Democratic run Executive Branch. Our office found no friends in the Clinton administration to help us in our struggle to account fully for our POW/MIAs and Kerry's influence would have been essential to secure that assistance. It never came. The stipulation placed in the Treaty was intended to allow our office to prepare for a trip to Poland and retrieve this list. We finally came to an agreement with the Polish officials and made our travel arrangements to retrieve the list. Alas, President Clinton took it upon himself to declare that all three countries had been forthcoming in a full accounting of any and all information regarding American POW/MIAs from WWII to the present. Our office was crushed! We had worked so hard and carefully to get that list and with a deft swoop of the pen -- President Clinton had defeated all our efforts.
An immediate protest went up from our office to the President (after all, we were the Presidential Commission tasked with this effort). President Clinton had not consulted with us before his declaration, nor did any of his staff. Everyone within the STATE Department and DOD were baffled when confronted with the knowledge, that our office had not given the President the green light. Once, the President had been confronted by this information, he replied that he had been told that a full accounting was achieved. Not a single person in the government (and certainly not our office), was willing to confess to this outrageous defeat. All eyes had turned to the one Commissioner who had the authority to speak on behalf of POW/MIA issues. The one who was a senior Senator amongst the Democratic Party and had access to the President's ear. The one who never showed up to work on this issue. The one who had already closed the case on the POW/MIA issue from the Vietnam War.
To really know the truth why President Clinton had done this to the families and friends of 12,500 American servicemen, will probably never come to light. We shall never know for sure if our candidate to whom President Clinton stated in his DNC speech said, "Send Me" for the POW issue, was responsible for the statement that a full accounting had been achieved. We shall never know this for sure and it can only be called speculation by those on the outside. But a few of us who worked this issue to the core of our beings -- we will know. We will bear the knowledge that our political system is ugly. We will know when we look at the families of those who have not found closure.
I will know that this is indeed a small world.
- Chief
Not even CLOSE.
Interviewer: Was there ever any question of you getting dishonourably discharged?
Kerry: Oh no, no, that has never been questioned.
LOL..yeah and it all depends on the meaning of the word "questioned"....somebody threw him a softball question that could have been fouled off...
I think we are all reaching our limit, but just imagine how President Bush must feel, having to stand up in the face of all these lies etc everyday. Cowboy up everyone...it ain't over till its over and we need to fight to the last conservative.
bttt
200 Posts at 0200 - must be "sumpin'" to this one!
Wow, I'm not sure if this is a POW issue or a dishonorable/General discharge issue. Probably isn't an issue of the senatorial conspiracy though. Gee, with Kerry, you have so much garbage to choose from!
He didn't say who the phone call was coming from. It could be from a reporter working on the story he has; that is how I took it. Otherwise, it would not make sense.
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