October Surprise??? Navy Chief (from SBVT site)

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[tazannie]

I hope this is good

[dead]

It's W. Graham Claytor, and unless I'm having a senior moment, he died some years ago.

If Kerry can make the dead walk, he can certainly get them to answer the phone.

[k2blader]

Hm! :-)

[Blogger]

LOL! It's too late for that kind of humor. It's SLAP HAPPY TIME!!!!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Navy Chief registered on FR under The Real NavyChief

I had permission from him to repost his data on this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1234450/posts?page=177#177

[nonkultur]

I don't know a big suprise a couple hours before the debate would throw Kerry off really bad for the debate.

Bigtime meltdown.

[Chuck54]

Now that is funny GeronL. LMAO

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

I GOT IT!!! I KNOW WHAT THE SUPRISE IS!.....

Kerry has been caught on video tape with a one-legged midget on top of a piano, while playing "Hail To The Chief" with his toes!

[Just mythoughts]

I agree. Obviously so does CBS/Jfkerry campaign as that was the whole motivation of that "fake" document scam, get the public attention away from the SBV.


JFKerry knows darn well moderate democrats are not going to like his real Vietnam story.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Carter pardoned all the Vietnam Protestors.. am I the only one sees way too many parallels between Kerry and Carter? Maybe this is why a Kerry election scares the pee out of me.

[Txsleuth]

Was it Karl Rove or Ed Gillespie that told Sean Hannity that there was some October surprises? I know I heard one of them tell him that recently. I wish they would hurry, my nerves are getting shot.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

I think Hanoi Kerry is going "up river" LOL

[HannaUSA]

Don't suspect there will be until their morning edition comes online.....heard/saw somewhere 5:00 am.....suspect thats ET.

[Jet Jaguar]

Thanks Tonk!

[BigKahuna]

I'm a retired Navy officer and "mustang" (prior enlisted Navy E-7).

If it's about a discharge, I can tell you that the only way Kerry would've gotten anything but an Honorable or General would be for him to have been seen either at an Admiral's Mast (non-judicial punishment proceedings) and then administratively separated under less-than or other-than-honorable conditions, or for him to have had formal charges preferred and face either special or general courts-martial.

In the case of a conviction at general courts-martial, Kerry would've basically had a felony conviction on his record. No matter how highly connected he was, there would've been no way to disguise such a black mark.

There might possibly have been some tomfoolery with his discharge status later on in the years after he left the Navy, through the Board of Correction of Naval Records (BCNR). Any servicemember can petition the Board for review and correction or upgrade to a higher-rated discharge of their general through Bad Conduct or Dishonorable discharge.

If this is what happened, then those matters are closely-held, with even a new DD-214 (Certificate of Discharge or Release from Active Duty) being issued to reflect an RE-R1 or RE1 discharge code (the type of code determines your suitability for reenlistment or future retention).

Again, in order for some unfavorable rating at discharge to have occurred, LT(jg) Kerry would have had to have engaged in some behavior in contravention of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, have been investigated for under an Article 32 JAGMAN (Manual of the Judge Advocate General....the legal manual that outlines investigative procedural matters) investigation and then brought to Admiral's Mast or some form of special (but not summary) or general courts-martial.

No Navy Report of Officer Fitness (FITREP) that Kerry has released has shown something like that occurring, but there are very curious gaps in his FITREP history. For officers, in order to be considered for future promotion, assignments and even character of discharge, there can be no such gaps.

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[Arizona Carolyn]

I "suspect" Clinton did something in his last 24 hours to "assist" Kerry. There is something on World Net Daily in all the TWA 800 stuff about the real reason Gore didn't run was Kerry has "investigated" dealings he had during the Clinton Administration -- basically blackmailed Gore (not that it broke my heart... but shows more of the guy's lack of character.

[Snoopers-868th]

Could this be regarding the guy that worked under Kerry & McCain on the MIA/POW stuff. I read a post either last week or thereabouts that told how Kerry undercut the negotiations to recover MIA/POW's. They had worked very hard on working something out when all of a sudden their work all went down the drain because normalization was signed. I wish I could remember the thread but I cannot.

[Merry]

I read the reposts and now I'm really confused about what Poland has to do with this. I also have to be up in 4 hours but this is really interesting.

[birbear]

For it to come out that he received a Dishonorable Discharge would be devastating to him....PERIOD!

It would be devastating... if it ever made the light of day...

And i mean, CNN, ABC, CBS... the resources that the "undecided" turn to. It's not going to do any good if it's just bantered about on talk radio and the Internet, because that's just preaching to the choir.

And forgive me my presumptions, but The NY SUN hardly seems like a source that is worthy of being a credible citation. (No offense to anybody, but I've worked with podunk newspapers, there's a reason why the NY Times, even with it's liberal bias and scandals like Jayson Blair, is known as the Newspaper of Record for the United States, it's because for 200+ years the NYT has a record for maintaining accuracy and responsibility in reporting. This NY Sun has what, a 30 week record of accuracy?)

A new scandal, no matter how important, isn't going to bring in any new voters, unless that scandal is reported by MSM.

It sucks. And I hate to be a wet blanket. But our time is better served registering people to vote than it is hoping for some "October Surprise."

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

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