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Posted on 10/12/2004 11:54:21 AM PDT by alchemist54

Navy SEAL examines Kerrys Military Record

SEALED MILITARY RECORD? by A. L. "Steve" Nash

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge:

Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.

My guess is that he was discharged in the '70s, but not honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire. This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

· On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6-year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

· On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years - 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & 5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Cod! e of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war.

It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972. Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

· On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per yea r training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

· On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -

Inactive.

· On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt . Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words &actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ’s Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL

Director, AuthentiSEAL

"The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs"

http://www.authentiseal.org/

It could be argued that, in 1970 and 1971, John Kerry, an officer in the U.S. Navy, violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Article 104, part 904; and the U.S. Code 18 USC 953, for violating the U.S. Constitution.

From these facts, Kerry also may be in direct violation of the 14th Amendment, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, which states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President" having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

Even though it was 33 years ago, the Constitution places no time limit on prosecution. If Kerry placed himself in violation of our laws, there are many witnesses available and willing to provide testimony of those events. Let's uncover the revolting truth.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerry; navy; navydischarge; sedition; vietnam
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1 posted on 10/12/2004 11:54:21 AM PDT by alchemist54
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To: alchemist54

October Surprise?


2 posted on 10/12/2004 11:56:48 AM PDT by Shaun_MD (Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - In times of War the Law will Fall Silent - Cicero)
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To: alchemist54

The MSM absolutely refuses to cover this story which is why it has gained no traction. Thank God for the SBVs.


3 posted on 10/12/2004 11:56:48 AM PDT by Merry
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I agree, as former USNR, I believe this should be investigated and resolved. Without these records we do not have the truth about Kerry's actual completion of service. Just because Kerry got an Honorable Discharge, as he said about Bush, doesn't mean he served his time.

I think the USN owes us an explanation. Shouldn't we all sign a petition and send it to them asking for answers? Is there a form we can fill out?


4 posted on 10/12/2004 11:58:43 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Shaun_MD

Bring. It. On.


5 posted on 10/12/2004 11:59:27 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: alchemist54

If perjury (Clinton) didn't qualify as an impeachable offense what makes you think treason will. If he were a republican it would but not as a democrat.


6 posted on 10/12/2004 12:00:20 PM PDT by MadAnthony1776
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This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

Exactly how will this "blow up in his face" by this Friday?

7 posted on 10/12/2004 12:01:11 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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Good post!


8 posted on 10/12/2004 12:03:15 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is Everyone's Right... ...and Everyone's Responsibility!)
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To: alchemist54
We need to see the Kerry form 180 along with a DD Form 214.

Question - If we loose Kerry as a candidate - do we get Hillary?

9 posted on 10/12/2004 12:07:23 PM PDT by yoe ("Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose." Ronald Reagan)
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We need to see the Kerry form 180 along with a DD Form 214.

Question - If we loose Kerry as a candidate - do we get Hillary?

10 posted on 10/12/2004 12:08:25 PM PDT by yoe ("Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose." Ronald Reagan)
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how come the blogosphere can't find his military records? Someone does not want to release this information.


11 posted on 10/12/2004 12:16:01 PM PDT by bubman
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BTTT


12 posted on 10/12/2004 12:22:43 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: alchemist54; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; ...

SEALED MILITARY RECORD PING!!


13 posted on 10/12/2004 12:25:44 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Anyone who votes for the john / john ticket is crazy.)
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"how come the blogosphere can't find his military records?"

Probably for the same reason Sen. Kennedy didn't get in trouble for Chappaquiddick. People on FR have been calling for Sen. Kerry to sign the form 180 for quite a while now, to no avail. The MSM won't pick up the story... kinda sad.

14 posted on 10/12/2004 12:25:49 PM PDT by TheWyzzyrd (Red is grey and yellow white, but we decide which is right.. and which is an illusion. (Moody Blues))
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To: A2J

Are the SwiftVets planning on filing a lawsuit if Kerry wins?

This is serious stuff.


15 posted on 10/12/2004 12:27:11 PM PDT by Creightongrad
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To: alchemist54
The "Under other than honorable" discharge was called an Undesirable Discharge (UD). A UD could be awarded as the result of an administrative action by a high level commander. The granting of a revision to such a discharge could have occurred as speculated on here (Clinton granting what was, in effect, another of his pardons). If the Clinton administration was involved you had better believe they have the documents safely squirreled away and will (if they already haven't) use them as "leverage" against Kerry. In fact, one could again speculate that such "leverage" is the probable reason why Kerry did not dump Clinton's lap dog, Terry McAuliffle, after he sewed up the nomination. Another area of interest would be if ol' Sandy Berger had access to any of the Clinton files that might contain such documents while he was rummaging around in the national archives... Inquiring minds want to know.
16 posted on 10/12/2004 12:27:31 PM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: alchemist54

Kerry will never sign 180.


17 posted on 10/12/2004 12:28:24 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: TheWyzzyrd

NO worry about Hillary, the ballots in most states have already been printed and absentee ballots in many cases have been mailed and returned already! This could be the october surprise. I saw a post of SBV site about this same issue and I think someone may have gotten ahold of the documents. Unlike CBS, these are the real deal, not forgeries........


18 posted on 10/12/2004 12:29:55 PM PDT by milwguy
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Can anyone confirm - by link or otherwise - that Kerry didn't get his honorable discharge until 2001? That's amazing!!


19 posted on 10/12/2004 12:49:23 PM PDT by Creightongrad
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To: alchemist54

You have posted quite a few mis-statements of fact and law regarding the military.

Makes me dubious of the entire post.


20 posted on 10/12/2004 12:50:54 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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