Part six, not five, sorry.
"Kerry knows that if he does sue them that as part of discovery he would be required to release all his records, which would prove their allegations. Truth is always the best defense. Kerry just keeps on refusing to release all his records and allowing the liberal media to cover for him...."
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The Swifties have Kerry's number...and they are playing it well. Any bets about the October suprise...Kerry's REAL MILITARY RECORD...???
We've already had an extensive discussion on this a few weeks ago. It had something to do with not getting his 'offical' honorable discharge until he was finished with his IRR duty.
It is odd that he won't release them. It would put to rest the allegations.
BTTT
It could possibly be the OCTOBER TORPEDO, WITH BILLARY'S HAND ON THE FIRING LEVER......
Thanks - I'll go to the site and read.
Actually, we have two problems. Kerry's actions and record, and the "mainstream media" NOT asking the questions or even bringing up the issue of Kerry's past. There are millions of Americans who know nothing about Kerry's anti-war activities, or who have been convinced that the Swift Boat Vets are a bunch of "Republican liars" and that their claims have been disproved. How many Americans know about Kerry's 1971 book, seen the cover, or known anything about how all copies seem to have been bought up and taken out of circulation? It's absolutely frightening. People can decide how important Kerry's military record is for themselves, but not reporting on it at all is a dereliction of the journalists' duties. Ask yourself if they would have treated Bush or any Republican the same way.
The discharge issue is perhaps the weakest question about
Kerry's brief naval career and later service on behalf of
North Viet Nam.
Anyone wading into an actual debate is advised to focus
on the scammed medals and Paris betrayals.
Nonetheless, if there's nothing to the discharge matter,
Kerry could neutralize it by signing the SF-180, so I
have no sympathy for him if this is a red herring.
The March 2001 is a DD215 http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD-215_Correction.pdf which is a correction to a previous discharge. Kerry got a discharge from the enlisted ranks [12/15/66] when he became an Officer... Then another discharge when he went into the Reserves [3/1/70] http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf .... A final Discharge in Feb 1978 when he was separated from the Inactive Reserves.... http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
This story has been beat to death here on FR over the past few months..... Some of the various threads are here;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=any;o=score;s=kerry%20discharge%20honorable
No, no no. This is incorrect. Kerry received an HONORABLE discharge in 1978. If he received a DISHONORABLE discharge he got it earlier than that, then had it changed in 1978.
Then, since his medals would have been taken away with the Dishonorable discharge, he had them re-issued during the 1980s (thus explaining the Lehman papers) and he ordered a correction to his own files in 2001 to see what people requesting them might get.
Stop asking the question and start making the accusation.
Make Kerry release his records to disprove it, if he can.
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore...Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended!
This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.
There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser- tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.
His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves.
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY on 3 Jan. 1970 after only 3 years and 18 days of military service, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have expired July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for his 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath about fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC, USN, Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where All investigators are US Navy SEALs" [ _http://www.authentiseal.org/_ (http://www.authentiseal.org/) ]
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore...Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended!
This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.
There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser- tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted.
His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).
On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves.
Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY on 3 Jan. 1970 after only 3 years and 18 days of military service, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have expired July 1, 1972.
Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."
On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainbridge, Maryland.
Where are Kerry's Performance Records for his 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?
Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?
On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive
On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.
3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath about fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.
4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.
5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.
Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S. Code 18 U.S.C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC, USN, Ret, UDT/SEAL Authentication Team -Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where All investigators are US Navy SEALs" [ _http://www.authentiseal.org/_ (http://www.authentiseal.org/) ]
The 2001 documents indicate a clarification of unit awards and campaign ribbons. It is a 215 not a 214.
The 1978 document is a discharge from the reserves. Again not a 214. Read it carefully, it is a release from the inactive reserves, essentially relieving him of any further obligations or call-ups.
The DD214 is the paper you want. All documents are not needed, nor are they desired (by me anyway, I could care less about his medical records, class grades, or PQS records). But the 214 ... that is one I want to see.
Best case scenario, the weekend before the election, Kerry's dishonorable discharge and general court martial records from 1974 or thereabouts are leaked.
Detailed analysis of Kerry discharge now online at
http://www.vetsforbush.net/kerry-oth-discharge.pdf