Posted on 10/12/2004 10:38:53 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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SWIFT BOATERS CHALLENGE: The 254 men who make up the group Swift Boat Veterans For Truth have issued a challenge to Kerry and his supporters. They have told him that if he
believes their allegations are false to sue them and take them to court. The Kerry campaign and liberal media have stated that the allegations made by the group are "unsubstantiated lies and that all their allegations have been debunked." If that is true then Kerry has a great case for a lawsuit charging them with libel and slander. You would also think that Kerry would want to disprove the allegations.
Kerry knows that if he does sue them that as part of discovery he would be required to release all his records, which would prove their allegations. Truth is always the best defense. Kerry just keeps on refusing to release all his records and allowing the liberal media to cover for him....
Now comes the interesting part. Kerry did not receive his actual Honorable Discharge until March 12, 2001. 23 years after he should have received it. Why the delay? Who authorized the 2001 discharge? Where are his records showing that he attended the required training and active duty days? Guess what folks? THESE RECORDS ARE PART OF THE RECORDS KERRY REFUSES TO RELEASE.
Why does Kerry refuse to release the records relating to the above and why does his Web Page show the gap in his service? Maybe it's because that during this time he was still a member of the Navy Reserve he:
1--Helped form the VVAW and served on it's Executive Board with known Communist sympathizers.
2--Attended a VVAW meeting where a plot to assassinate pro-war American Senators was discussed.
3--Lied under oath about atrocities ...
(Excerpt) Read more at christian-news-in-maine.com ...
Part six, not five, sorry.
"Kerry knows that if he does sue them that as part of discovery he would be required to release all his records, which would prove their allegations. Truth is always the best defense. Kerry just keeps on refusing to release all his records and allowing the liberal media to cover for him...."
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The Swifties have Kerry's number...and they are playing it well. Any bets about the October suprise...Kerry's REAL MILITARY RECORD...???
We've already had an extensive discussion on this a few weeks ago. It had something to do with not getting his 'offical' honorable discharge until he was finished with his IRR duty.
I hope I hope I hope.
It is odd that he won't release them. It would put to rest the allegations.
BTTT
It could possibly be the OCTOBER TORPEDO, WITH BILLARY'S HAND ON THE FIRING LEVER......
Over the last six weeks, there is not much of kerry's record that Danny hasn't alreay made public.
Thanks - I'll go to the site and read.
Actually, we have two problems. Kerry's actions and record, and the "mainstream media" NOT asking the questions or even bringing up the issue of Kerry's past. There are millions of Americans who know nothing about Kerry's anti-war activities, or who have been convinced that the Swift Boat Vets are a bunch of "Republican liars" and that their claims have been disproved. How many Americans know about Kerry's 1971 book, seen the cover, or known anything about how all copies seem to have been bought up and taken out of circulation? It's absolutely frightening. People can decide how important Kerry's military record is for themselves, but not reporting on it at all is a dereliction of the journalists' duties. Ask yourself if they would have treated Bush or any Republican the same way.
Aside from the claiming that the Swifty's allegations have been "debunked", has Kerry or his surrogates actually denied or even addressed any of the allegations?
Give me a few and you'll have mail.
And yet our friends in the "elitist media" keep harping on the President's NG record, where there IS a record of HIS HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
The talk about some of his "missing records" makes me wonder if someone like burkett wasn't part of the conspiracy to DESTROY those records and then raise FALSE questions about them. Hmmmmmmmm, could there have been a suggestion from danny boy and moppy mapes at cbs?
Their only denial has been to slander the Swift Boat guys.
The discharge issue is perhaps the weakest question about
Kerry's brief naval career and later service on behalf of
North Viet Nam.
Anyone wading into an actual debate is advised to focus
on the scammed medals and Paris betrayals.
Nonetheless, if there's nothing to the discharge matter,
Kerry could neutralize it by signing the SF-180, so I
have no sympathy for him if this is a red herring.
The March 2001 is a DD215 http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD-215_Correction.pdf which is a correction to a previous discharge. Kerry got a discharge from the enlisted ranks [12/15/66] when he became an Officer... Then another discharge when he went into the Reserves [3/1/70] http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf .... A final Discharge in Feb 1978 when he was separated from the Inactive Reserves.... http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf
This story has been beat to death here on FR over the past few months..... Some of the various threads are here;
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=any;o=score;s=kerry%20discharge%20honorable
No, no no. This is incorrect. Kerry received an HONORABLE discharge in 1978. If he received a DISHONORABLE discharge he got it earlier than that, then had it changed in 1978.
Then, since his medals would have been taken away with the Dishonorable discharge, he had them re-issued during the 1980s (thus explaining the Lehman papers) and he ordered a correction to his own files in 2001 to see what people requesting them might get.
didn't say dishonorable, less than honorable, a general discharge or perhaps administrative discharge, but, Danny source is impecable.
Stop asking the question and start making the accusation.
Make Kerry release his records to disprove it, if he can.
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