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POLL-Kerry Opens Three-Point Lead on Bush
www.reuters.com ^ | Mon Oct 11, 2004 | John Whitesides

Posted on 10/11/2004 4:28:15 AM PDT by foolscap

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic challenger John Kerry expanded his slight lead over President Bush to three points in a tight race for the White House, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Monday.

The Massachusetts senator held a 47-44 percent lead over Bush in the latest three-day tracking poll, up two points from Sunday. Bush's support dropped one point and Kerry's support rose one point in the new poll.

The close race turns up the pressure for Wednesday's final debate in Tempe, Arizona, when the White House rivals will have another chance to make their case to voters on domestic issues.

The poll found six percent of likely voters are still undecided about the race with barely more than three weeks to go until the Nov. 2 election, and 16 percent of the voters who identify themselves as independents are undecided.

Bush made small gains among young voters and Kerry picked up strength among women voters ahead of the debate -- the final chance for both candidates to speak directly to an audience of millions of voters.

"Wednesday's debate is vital because many sub-groups remain close and because so many independents have yet to make up their minds," pollster John Zogby said.

The poll of 1,214 likely voters was taken Friday through Sunday and has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points. The rolling poll will continue through Nov. 1 -- the day before the election.

The last two days of polling came after Bush and Kerry battered each other over Iraq, jobs and taxes during a debate on Friday. The economy and Iraq are consistently listed as the top issues in the race.

A tracking poll combines the results of three consecutive nights of polling, then drops the first night's results each time a new night is added. It allows pollsters to record shifts in voter sentiment as they happen.

The poll found 48 percent of voters thought the United States was headed in the wrong direction and 45 percent thought it was headed in the right direction.

It also showed independent candidate Ralph Nader, blamed by some Democrats for drawing enough votes from Al Gore to cost him the election in 2000, earning the support of 1.7 percent of likely voters


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: polls; zogby
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To: Dane

Fox News called 2000 dead even, it will be interesting what their poll says


81 posted on 10/11/2004 6:48:58 AM PDT by Greek (WAHT)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Anyone know the 2002 turnout? I think Pubs were up closer to Dims...


82 posted on 10/11/2004 6:51:23 AM PDT by Greek (WAHT)
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To: billhilly

I'm beginning to think the only polls that mean anything are the ones that Karl Rove runs to find out what's really happening with the voters. Bush & Rove sound fairly confident these days, so I'm not concerned about this Zogged-out poll.


83 posted on 10/11/2004 6:52:26 AM PDT by defenderSD (To the Democrats it's all about the children....and their indoctrination into socialist ideology.)
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To: foolscap

I expect this gap to close in the next few days. But I don't trust Zogby now anyway. I used to. He's an Arabist with an agenda.


84 posted on 10/11/2004 6:56:19 AM PDT by veronica ("Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims." Abdulrahman Al-Rashed)
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To: Mayflower Sister

Actually there were other polls that showed the race within 1 point the day before the 2000 election. But Zogby's polls move alot on his last poll. He missed in 1996 and projected a bigger Clinton win than what occured.


85 posted on 10/11/2004 7:01:28 AM PDT by jps098
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To: jps098

He was also totally off base on the 2002 mid-term elections.


86 posted on 10/11/2004 7:07:02 AM PDT by DarthVader (Defeating John Kerry is just as important as destroying Al-Quaeda!!!!)
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To: foolscap
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Released: October 11, 2004

Election 2004 Reuters/Zogby Daily Tracking Poll: President Bush Falls Back, While Senator Kerry Moves Ahead; Kerry, 47% - Bush, 44%; President Gaining Momentum Among Younger Voters (47%-38%), New Reuters/Zogby Poll Reveals 

As the count down to election day continues, Senator John Kerry leads  President George W. Bush by three points (47%-44%), according to a new Reuters/Zogby daily tracking poll.  The telephone poll of 1214 likely voters was conducted from Friday through Sunday (October 8- 10, 2004). The margin of error is +/- 2.9 percentage points.

Presidential Candidates  %

Oct 8- Oct 10

Oct 7-Oct 9

Oct 6-Oct 8

Republican - George W. Bush

44

45

45

Democrat - John Kerry

47

46

46

Independent - Ralph Nader

1.7

.9

1.4

Libertarian - Michael Badnarik

.1

.1

-

Constitution - Michael Peroutka

.2

.2

.2

Green - David Cobb

.1

.2

.1

Other

.9

.7

.7

Undecided

6

7

6

Pollster John Zogby: "The President did not have a good single day today. He has lost another point over the three days. Polling 44% is not good for an incumbent -- but this is very far from over. Bush seems to be making gains among 18-29 year olds. He now leads among them -- something that has not happened all year until now. I am watching closely to see if that continues. This group also has 9% undecided, which is high for this year. Neither Bush's gains nor the high undecideds are good news for Kerry.

"The President also appears to be getting stronger in the Central/Great Lakes region -- home of Ohio, Michigan, and Missouri. I will continue to watch that. As will I look closely at  military families where the President has picked up a few points.

"But the President only leads among married voters by 11 points -- not enough to offset Kerry's strong lead among singles.

"Kerry continues to poll well among low income and union voters. He has improved his standing among women and is running strong among voters who have active passports -- perhaps a sign that he is making his case on foreign policy. Kerry also continues his dominance among Jewish voters. While the sub-group polled is small, the fact that the President never seems to break 20% of this group at least suggests that he might not do as well as his advisors have suggested.

"Ralph Nader continues to slip-- polling only 1.7%. He does receive 5% of Independent voters but is barely a blip on the screen among Democrats. Kerry leads among Independents by 6 points, but 16% of them are undecided.

"Lots more campaign to go. Wednesday's debate is vital because many sub-groups remain close and because so many Independents have yet to make up their minds.”

Zogby International conducted interviews of 1214 likely voters chosen at random nationwide. All calls were made from Zogby International headquarters in Utica, N.Y., from October 8 through October 10, 2004. The margin of error is +/- 2.9 percentage points. Slight weights were added to region, party, age, race, religion, gender, to more accurately reflect the voting population. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups.

In 1996, John Zogby came within one-tenth of 1 percent of the presidential result. Since 1996, Zogby has polled for Reuters News Agency, the largest news agency in the world. The latest results and analysis of the Zogby polls, and exclusive interviews with John Zogby are available on Reuters.com. The site provides comprehensive coverage of the campaigns, including a special video service, which compares the position of both candidates on key policy issues.

(10/11/2004)


87 posted on 10/11/2004 7:12:03 AM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: AmishDude
Here were Zogby's numbers in 2000:

Gore Bush Nader Others Not Sure
11/06/00 48 46 4 No more info
11/05/00 46 47 5 No more info
11/02/00 42 46 6 No more info
11/01/00 42 45 5 No more info
10/31/00 40 47 5 No more info
10/30/00 42 45 5 No more info
10/25/00 45 43 4 No more info
10/20/00 44 45 No more info
10/17/00 43 44 No more info
10/16/00 41 43 No more info
10/10/00 42 43 No more info
10/01/00 44.6 42.5 3.4 1.9 7.7
09/30/00 44.4 43.6 2.8 2.1 7.2
09/29/00 44.3 43.0 3.3 2.5 6.9
The DUI story broke on 11/01/00. I did a search on "Zogby Gore" in the FR archives and went waaaaaaay back to get this info. Just to put things into perspective.
88 posted on 10/11/2004 7:15:17 AM PDT by AmishDude (This space for rent.)
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To: jps098
Zog's 1996 preformance....

1996
Clinton Dole Perot Un- decided Other Clinton- Dole Margin Error
Poll - Elect
Candidate
Error
Election Result 49.0% 41% 8%   2% 8%    
CBS/NYT 53% 35% 9% 3% 0% 18% 10% 5.0%
ABC News 51% 39% 7% 3% 0% 12% 4% 2.0%
NBC/WSJ 49% 37% 9.0% 5% 0% 12% 4% 2.0%
Gallup/CNN/USA Today 52% 41% 7% 0% 0% 11% 3% 1.5%
ICR/Politics Now 51% 38% 11% 0% 0% 13% 5% 2.5%
Hotline/Battleground 45% 36% 8% 11% 0% 9% 1% 0.5%
Harris 51% 39% 9% 0% 1% 12% 4% 2.0%
Zogby/Reuters 49% 41% 8% 0% 2% 8% 0% 0.0%
PSR/PewCenter 52% 38% 9% 0% 1% 14% 6% 3.0%

89 posted on 10/11/2004 7:15:20 AM PDT by deport ("Because we believe in human dignity..." [President Bush at the UN])
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To: Fresh Wind

It's the Zogby Muslim connection IMO!


90 posted on 10/11/2004 7:19:16 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: sirchtruth

Where does Bush lead by 7?


91 posted on 10/11/2004 7:25:23 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: foolscap

BTW, did anyone poing Courage ?


92 posted on 10/11/2004 7:26:33 AM PDT by UsnDadof8 (The groundswell of public opinion is about to hit John Kerry. And it won't be pretty)
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To: kesg
Zogby claims to use the 2000 turnout numbers: 39%D, 35%R, 26%I.

That is a very interesting fact since Rasmussen uses the same breakdown. Rasmussen currently has Bush up by 4. There should not be a seven point swing with two polls that use the same methods.

93 posted on 10/11/2004 7:34:43 AM PDT by KJacob (All polls are equal: Some more equal than others.)
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To: Mayflower Sister

Fox News also had it tied 46% 46% I believe.


94 posted on 10/11/2004 7:37:53 AM PDT by bduet
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To: deport

That was the "final" poll. In the weeks before the election in 96 his poll looked more like the CBS poll (at the end)


95 posted on 10/11/2004 7:47:34 AM PDT by jps098
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To: tabsternager

Oh, my God - the sky is falling!


96 posted on 10/11/2004 7:51:55 AM PDT by brewcrew
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To: KJacob

I would further guess that Zogby allocates independent and undecided voters differently from Rasmussen and that he has a very different model for determining who is or is not a likely voter. Unfortunately, neither one discloses much about how he conducts his polls.

For a good general critique of these two pollsters and others, see the following article:

http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4176


97 posted on 10/11/2004 7:55:06 AM PDT by kesg
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To: DarthVader

Yes but we are not taking cheating into consideration.


98 posted on 10/11/2004 8:05:45 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: foolscap

Can't trust Zogby.


99 posted on 10/11/2004 8:06:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: foolscap

100 posted on 10/11/2004 8:21:42 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (FR = A pajama party 24/7)
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