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McAuliffe to College Dems: Bush Will Reinstitute Draft [trying not to be controversial]
CNS News ^ | Oct 8, 2004 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 10/09/2004 1:22:27 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko

St. Louis (CNSNews.com) - Republicans had no sooner shot down rumors of a military draft when Democratic Party Chairman Terry McAuliffe warned a group of College Democrats on Friday that President Bush would call them up for duty if re-elected.

"I know it's controversial to say it, but don't think for one second that if George Bush gets re-elected and we have another conflict in some other theater of the world, we're going to have to reinstitute the draft," McAuliffe said. "It is very controversial to say it, but it is what it is."

McAuliffe spoke to about a hundred of Washington University's College Democrats at a coffee house near the campus Friday afternoon. Afterward, he told CNSNews.com he stood by his comments to the students.

"It's clearly a possibility," McAuliffe said. "What if we have another conflict where we have to commit troops? We don't have them today."

He added: "I'm not trying to do this to scare young people, but they've got to understand this is a possibility in this country."

Rumors have circulated on the Internet about the possible return of a draft. E-mails have targeted college students in particular.

A spokesman for the Bush-Cheney campaign immediately dismissed McAuliffe's comments as a tactic to scare young voters.

"It's completely baseless," said Taylor Griffin, deputy communications director for the Bush campaign. "This administration believes in a volunteer military. The only people who've proposed a draft are Democrats in Congress."

In fact, the House of Representatives this week voted down a Democrat-sponsored bill that would have reinstated the draft. Republicans brought up the measure, sponsored by Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), only to shoot it down in a 402-2 vote.

Following McAuliffe's speech, even some of the Democrats in attendance said they thought the party chairman was bluffing when he made his pitch.

"I had a little problem with that," said Steve Chemtob, a junior in earth and planetary science. "There's a little bit of contradiction there. [McAuliffe] talked about how Bush was going to reinstitute the draft, but also how [Kerry] was complaining there weren't enough troops in Iraq."

"I don't think [Bush] would institute the draft," added Spencer Wein, a sophomore business major. "But I think there's less of a chance Kerry would institute it."

Others at McAuliffe's speech weren't so sure it was completely outside the realm of possibility.

"It's something that could legitimately take place, and I think the Democrats have considered the idea, and I think the Republican have, too," said Matt Klasen, a junior political science and environmental studies major. "I think it's being turned against the Republicans simply because they're in power."

Junior Nicole Soussan, president of the Washington University College Democrats, defended McAuliffe after the speech. She agreed that a draft under Bush might be very likely.

"If [Bush] continues on this pattern of unjustified preemptive warfare, then by all means, there really is no physical way that we have enough troops to continue on the present path," Soussan said. "I think it's scary."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
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1 posted on 10/09/2004 1:22:28 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko

What a lying sack of human debris. We are cutting down forces...not thinking of drafting. The thing is...he KNOWS he's lying. Too bad people are too blind to see it.


2 posted on 10/09/2004 1:25:43 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Mike Fieschko
Horse hockey! Charlie Rangel (a DEMOCRAT) brought up the bill, and it FAILED in the House 402-2. Even Rangel voted against it. Only two DEMOCRATS voted for it!

Shut up, McAuliffe, you LOW LIFE SCUM LOSER !!


3 posted on 10/09/2004 1:26:52 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (The GOP throw their trash out. The DemocRATS worship theirs.)
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4 posted on 10/09/2004 1:27:33 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Mike Fieschko

What's McAwful's advice, to to England and get high like BJ Klintoon?


5 posted on 10/09/2004 1:28:22 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

McAwful is the absolute worst. What a joke.


6 posted on 10/09/2004 1:28:29 PM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
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To: NELSON111
What a lying sack of human debris.

Today's Global Test extra-credit question:

"Aside from 300 pounds, give one difference between Terry McAuliffe and Michael Moore. Candidates may use protractors."
7 posted on 10/09/2004 1:31:15 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (N.B. You should write on at least one side of the paper.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

If we are forced into another righteous cause of self-protection, more young men and women will volunteer. It's the American way, and I trust them to do that.


8 posted on 10/09/2004 1:34:07 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: NELSON111

I think I heard kerry say he'd send 40,000 more troops to Iraq. Or was that after he said he'd not send 40,000 more troops to Iraq? I'm confused.


9 posted on 10/09/2004 1:34:07 PM PDT by queenkathy
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To: Mike Fieschko
He added: "I'm not trying to do this to scare young people, but they've got to understand this is a possibility in this country."

This is NOT a credible statement. He's lying through his crooked teeth.

10 posted on 10/09/2004 1:35:19 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Mike Fieschko
"...but don't think for one second that if George Bush gets re-elected and we have another conflict in some other theater of the world, we're going to have to reinstitute the draft,"

pruned of all needless words, the statement shows that McAwful is an idiot.

He meant to say that we WOULD have to reinstate the draft, but his wording conveys the diametrical opposite denotation.

What a moron - an exemplar of the party so fond of calling Bush inarticulate and stupid.

11 posted on 10/09/2004 1:36:15 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: Mike Fieschko

One huge difference, no pun intended: One is paid by the "Party of the people" to continually lie, distort, enflame, and reduce political discussion to base name calling. The other does it for free.


12 posted on 10/09/2004 1:36:56 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: savedbygrace
This is NOT a credible statement. He's lying through his crooked teeth.

I tried to fit that in the [ ... ] part of the title, but ran up against the 100 character limit.
13 posted on 10/09/2004 1:37:27 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra?")
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To: dyed_in_the_wool

ole "Vern" would have whupped McAwful over this.


14 posted on 10/09/2004 1:37:53 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: King Prout

I noticed that too, he is actually saying there will not be a draft, though he clearly was trying to say there would be.


15 posted on 10/09/2004 1:39:30 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Mike Fieschko
I'm not trying to do this to scare young people ...

Didn't anyone tell McAuliffe that you can go to hell for lying?

It's the old Nazi propaganda trick -- if you tell a lie often enough, people will eventually believe it.

16 posted on 10/09/2004 1:40:19 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

This lie will be repeated and repeated.

The Roman Empire had to virtually kidnap individuals and indenture them for military service, for a period of 20 years. Seeing no options, most of those drafted looked forward to death on the battlefield as their only way out, and while the legions were fierce warriors, they also were somewhat fatalistic. Desertion was punishable by immediate death, carried out by the first soldier to capture the deserter.

Over the centuries, it has been proven again and again, volunteers with the necessary skills and dedication were vastly more effectual than barely trained recruits who had been inducted into service under threat of even more severe punishment for failure to report for duty.

Most of the young people who are in fear of the draft wouldn't be ABLE to become an effectual soldier, sailor, Marine or airman in today's uniformed services. They need not worry about the draft, it is too much trouble for the other members of the team to have to stumble around their cowering bodies curled up in the fetal position.

President George W. Bush will not introduce conscription to fill the ranks of military specialists. A President John Kerry would have to rely on the draft. Which is it - vote for Bush and never be subject to a draft, or vote for Kerry, and almost certainly be drafted sometime in the next four years?


17 posted on 10/09/2004 1:43:56 PM PDT by alloysteel
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To: Hugin

either an example of supreme stupidity or of the acme of cleverness (in future, McAwful could claim that he had said we would NOT draft...)

hard to tell, with Rats.


18 posted on 10/09/2004 1:44:23 PM PDT by King Prout (yo! sKerry: "Live by the flip, die by the flop." - Frank_Discussion)
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To: Mike Fieschko
Using McAwful's logic, a Kerry administration would be MUCH more likely to institute a draft:


19 posted on 10/09/2004 1:48:45 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: King Prout
"I know it's controversial to say it, but don't think for one second that if George Bush gets re-elected and we have another conflict in some other theater of the world, we're going to have to reinstitute the draft," McAuliffe said. "It is very controversial to say it, but it is what it is."

Parsing that using real English, he said Bush WON'T reinstitute the draft. Was this quoted correctly?
20 posted on 10/09/2004 1:49:23 PM PDT by HTuttle
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