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Shame, Shame, Shame (MUST READ)
NRO ^ | October 08, 2004 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 10/08/2004 2:32:12 PM PDT by swilhelm73

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This might be Jonah's best article...

Anyway, a point that is often ignored; it isn't those supporting the WoT who've changed their positions, but those who oppose the war.

In the lead up to the invasion of Iraq, the anti-war movement had two primary arguments;

1) Attacking Iraq will lead to the fall of "friendly" governments in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan.

2) If we attack Iraq, Hussein will use his WMDs on our troops and Israel.

Amazingly, the anti-war zealots now claim that we should have invaded some other country - like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, and that no one ever had reason to believe that Hussein had WMDs.

Pretty much every argument for the war has been proven to be correct save the last (for which the jury is still out);

1) Obviously Hussein was in violation of the terms of the cease fire.

2) Hussein had the capability and desire to build WMDs even if he did not have stockpiles.

3) Hussein had ties to terrorist groups.

4) Sanctions had little effect on Hussein's regime because France and Russia were still trading with him illegally.

5) Clearing out the cesspool of Arabic political culture is the only way to permanently end the threat of Islamist terror.

1 posted on 10/08/2004 2:32:12 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

Excellent read, very concise.


2 posted on 10/08/2004 2:35:49 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress. ~Will R)
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To: swilhelm73

bump for later


3 posted on 10/08/2004 2:37:23 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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If Bill Clinton or Al Gore had conducted this war, you would be weeping joyously about Iraqi children going to school and women registering to vote.

True.

Every day
that Saddam remained in power
was
another day that
1. Iraqi children starved
and
2. UNprincipled men grew richer.

I have a prediction.

Tonight John Kerry will announce that Bush took too long to fight Iraq.

4 posted on 10/08/2004 2:37:57 PM PDT by syriacus (I'm commanded to LOVE appeaseniks, but I don't have to VOTE for one as Commander-in-Chief)
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To: swilhelm73
I'm detecting a pretty consistent uptick in the anger barometer amongst the GOP. We are tired of Kerry's lies and red herrings.
5 posted on 10/08/2004 2:40:46 PM PDT by etradervic (GLOBAL TEST? Kerry can't even pass the SMELL TEST.)
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To: swilhelm73
Your position is totally logical and eloquently expressed.

However, it won't budge anybody on the left a whit. Logic has nothing to do with it. All they have is hatred...and an unquenchable thirst for power.

6 posted on 10/08/2004 2:44:47 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: etradervic

I don't know about anyone else here but I have reached DEFCON 1.


7 posted on 10/08/2004 2:46:45 PM PDT by afnamvet (Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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I don't know about anyone else here but I have reached DEFCON 1.

I will second that:
8 posted on 10/08/2004 2:51:30 PM PDT by etradervic (GLOBAL TEST? Kerry can't even pass the SMELL TEST.)
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To: swilhelm73

Bump for later.


9 posted on 10/08/2004 2:52:11 PM PDT by outlawcam (No time to waste. Now get moving.)
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To: swilhelm73

"We can even use some of the extra money from the Oil-for-Food program to compensate him for the damage to his palaces and prisons.... Heck, if John Edwards weren't busy, he could represent him.+

This is awesome and hilarious. It really helped me get my hands around the situation. A comprehensive understanding has been eluding me. This situation requires more than a fifth grade education, which is all Kerry, Edwards and the Media want to assert.


10 posted on 10/08/2004 2:57:18 PM PDT by ruthles
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To: swilhelm73

BUMP article and post 1!


11 posted on 10/08/2004 2:59:00 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: The REAL "coalition of the coerced and bribed" is France and Germany!)
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Here's what I don't get...2 things actually 1) Why isn't ANYONE mentioning the fact that if Saddam was so clean, had nothing going on, nothing to hide, why in the hell did he not come out in the final months before the war and say, look I'm clean, come on in and check it out, the sanctions would have been lifted, he would have been pitied by the left here and made into this downtrodden figure, beaten up by the mean Americans...there's more than just saying, "because he didn't think we'd attack", he knew he was dealing with Bush not ClinKerry...it's cuz he DID have some nasty stuff ready to brew and a plan to do it. 2) If Bush DIDN'T do what he did and go to Iraq, and he left Saddam and focused on Iran or whatever, here's what Kerry and Loons would be saying tonight... "This President let a sworn enemy sit and ignore threat after threat, resolution after resolution after I and others gave him the authority to attack...he's weak, misguided...blah...blah...freaking blah...".....Go W!!!


12 posted on 10/08/2004 3:07:00 PM PDT by gbtheshark (So thankful to be living in such interesting times!!!!)
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To: gbtheshark

bttt


13 posted on 10/08/2004 3:17:08 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (The road to heaven on earth always seems to detour to hell on earth. --Daniel J. Flynn)
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To: AZamericonnie

one of the best, if not THE best, articles I've read


14 posted on 10/08/2004 3:17:57 PM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: afnamvet

"I don't know about anyone else here but I have reached DEFCON 1."


ditto...I am royally pissed and ready to rumble!


15 posted on 10/08/2004 3:19:29 PM PDT by spacejunkie
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(For Australian Eyes Only)

Shame, Shame, Shame

16 posted on 10/08/2004 3:23:13 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (satire: the stealth viewpoint.)
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To: gbtheshark

Great points...Bush needs to come out firing tonight and I think he'll do it.


17 posted on 10/08/2004 3:23:19 PM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: swilhelm73

Yes, this was a great article, good job posting it. It is really written with a lot of feeling and it is damning in its charges.


18 posted on 10/08/2004 3:35:45 PM PDT by jocon307 (Exuding grim purpose and resolve since 1958)
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To: swilhelm73

BUMP for a great column, and your great analysis!


19 posted on 10/08/2004 4:19:23 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: swilhelm73

bflr


20 posted on 10/08/2004 4:36:38 PM PDT by cgk (Calling it MemoGate is like saying Watergate had something to do w/ Water: WhistlingPasttheGraveyard)
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