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Kerry Lied, And So Did I...
WinterSoldier.com ^ | October 6, 2004 | Steve Pitkin

Posted on 10/06/2004 8:35:23 PM PDT by Interesting Times

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When John Kerry testified to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971 that American troops in Vietnam were ravaging the country with widespread atrocities, it was based on a pack of lies. I know, because I told some of those lies after Kerry coached me on what to say.

I was wounded in 1969 and when well enough to walk and return to the US I was spit on, ridiculed and had feces thrown at my uniform. I was mad at my country for sending me to a war it was not committed to win and bitter at being vilified for serving my country.

After discharge from the Army I met a representative of “Vietnam Veterans Against the War.” He wore jungle fatigues, spoke like a Vietnam veteran and held out a hand of friendship, a kind of Vietnam era VFW. I joined, not knowing they were radicals.

After several VVAW meetings my recruiter said we were needed in a Detroit meeting called Winter Soldier to support members recounting bad experiences in Vietnam, and there would be a free concert.

I rode to Detroit with John Kerry and others in a freezing cold van. While Kerry was interested in atrocities, I hoped to meet pretty women.

In Detroit Kerry pressed me to testify but I told him I didn’t see any atrocities in Vietnam. They needed me for their purpose because I was one of the few present who had been in combat.

During a break, John Kerry and some moderators surrounded me. Kerry said, “I need you to say you saw war crimes and atrocities in Vietnam.” Others said “Come on man, the brothers need you!” and “Don’t you want to help save lives in Vietnam?” Someone whispered in my ear “It’s a long walk back to Baltimore.”

I reluctantly agreed to say something, and Kerry said “OK, we’re going to have a dialogue with you recorded before you go out there. I need you to talk about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel.”

Kerry coached me to “Specify indiscriminate artillery on villages, racism, brutality and rape.” He said he’d help me with specifics.

When the camera came on, Kerry asked “What brings you here to Detroit?” Was he kidding? I felt betrayed, I tried to evade by mumbling how hard that was to answer and I felt a strong desire to leave.

But I didn’t. Following Kerry’s prompting I told false stories, a rambling bunch of generalities sprinkled with references to racism, atrocities, and an organized underground in country, along with some half-truths to please the mob.

When it was over I went on with my life, rejoined the military, and buried VVAW as a dark memory. When I later discovered Kerry had been meeting with the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong in Paris and repeating their talking points in the US while our boys were still dying, I was sick at having helped him.

I have noted the backlash against veterans who speak out against Kerry now that he wants to be President. Many call it dirty politics. But it makes no difference to me whether Kerry is a Democrat or Republican; this is a matter of keeping faith with my country. Whatever you say about me, I now must tell the truth about Kerry and about myself.

Recently in Washington DC a group of Vietnam vets held a rally. At the last minute I was given a few moments to speak to the crowd of thousands. I nervously stepped up on the stage, gripped the podium with shaking hands and as I confessed to the crowd what I had done long ago I could see anger on their faces. But when I asked them to forgive me, I heard someone shout "You're already forgiven!" I saw aging veterans, wives and their adult children standing in the sun with tears on their faces. There were also smiles. From these people I felt closure, my dark conscience brightened. As I stepped off the stage, many lined up to shake my hand and hug me, and I was overwhelmed.

I failed those I owed the most loyalty long ago. That’s my fault, not John Kerry’s. But Kerry did use me, and he knowingly used lies to denounce a generation of fine American troops.

Kerry played on people’s fears to gain his own political advantage 33 years ago, no matter the danger to our troops. He’s doing the same thing again today.

This time it’s Iraq.

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Steve Pitkin
Boca Raton, Florida

See also: Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers by Scott Swett


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: homeatlast; johnkerry; kerry; kerrylied; kerryliedrally; phonywarcrimes; stevepitkin; vvaw; wintersoldier
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To: Interesting Times
emailing this to everyone I know, and even those I don't know.

Thanks.

You should repost this every F'n day just to make sure no one misses it.

This is very personal to me. I'm too young to have served in Viet Nam. But my cousin Butch did. He was my favorite cousin, like an idol to a young kid. He went to Nam, and he never did any of those things Kerry said. I'm too mad to type, leaving now to take a walk and think about Butch.
101 posted on 10/07/2004 10:16:17 AM PDT by handy (Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: handy

All those fine folks serving in the military today are going to didi mau and take a walk like you if Kerry gets elected.

They know he will stab them in the back first chance he gets.

That's the real reason the rats want the draft. They will need it if they ever gain control of our military.


102 posted on 10/07/2004 10:21:09 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: maica
Thanks for the list of FR threads. Here's another one:

Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers.

103 posted on 10/07/2004 10:24:36 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: handy
You should repost this every F'n day just to make sure no one misses it.

Not much chance of getting away with that. I didn't even put this in "Breaking" for fear of being beaten with bamboo staves...

104 posted on 10/07/2004 10:25:56 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks!


105 posted on 10/07/2004 10:26:50 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Give the 2 Johns an enema and you could fit them both into a shoe box!)
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To: Interesting Times; Tu Dia; Jim Robinson

Yes, but this thread appears to have been graced by Mr. Pitkin himself. I feel honored.


106 posted on 10/07/2004 10:28:00 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: MistyCA

Please remove me from any and all of your ping lists. Thank you.


107 posted on 10/07/2004 10:30:04 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: MistyCA

Please remove me from your ping list. I did not ask to be added.


108 posted on 10/07/2004 10:30:38 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Interesting Times
He should submit it to some papers that would give a damn.
109 posted on 10/07/2004 10:30:43 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Interesting Times

WOW! Refreshingly honest; disturbingly true.


110 posted on 10/07/2004 10:30:59 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Kryptonite
Yes, but this thread appears to have been graced by Mr. Pitkin himself. I feel honored.

That's correct, Tu Dia is Steve.

111 posted on 10/07/2004 10:32:52 AM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: GOPJ

HAHAHAHAHA!! What a great story.


112 posted on 10/07/2004 10:37:15 AM PDT by MindyW
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To: armymarinemom

BUMP


113 posted on 10/07/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: armymarinemom

BUMP


114 posted on 10/07/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: armymarinemom

BUMP


115 posted on 10/07/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by Triple (All forms of socialism deny individuals the right to the fruits of their labor)
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To: Interesting Times
IT, thanks for posting this.

Steve, thank you for your service to the country at this time of need. The future of the country depends on your message getting out. I've emailed it to many people, whom I'm certain will pass this on to many more....

116 posted on 10/07/2004 10:40:38 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Tu Dia
but the only plane he flew was in his mind.

Sounds a bit like John F'n Kerry.

117 posted on 10/07/2004 10:42:44 AM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: AnnaZ; feinswinesuksass

ping


118 posted on 10/07/2004 10:43:55 AM PDT by HangFire (Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations.)
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To: beelzepug
I'm sorry, I guess that was a little harsh, how about 70%? I'm pretty sure that 90% of freepers fall into the 30% portion.
It's just frustrating to me, having been born at the tail end of that war. Every time I hear or read "Viet Nam" my blood pressure goes up because I know the B.S. that's about to follow. Because a war I wasn't alive to experience has had a profound affect on my life I've been forced to form strong opinions on the subject.

This is the way I see it, the short version: The peace love and dope wing of the BB generation forced a premature end to a war to stop the spread of the worlds' most oppressive and murderous ideologies. The end result was the slaughter of tens of millions of SE Asians, American humiliation, tens of thousands of American casualties, undermined faith in the American way and the spread of communist group-think here at home. It is my opinion THE NET EFFECT of the BB generation on our country and the world has been disastrous. I am certainly not implicating all BB's, please understand that, just the portion responsible for the above, which are the ones who had the greatest impact.
119 posted on 10/07/2004 10:56:14 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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To: MistyCA

Thanx for the ping. :o)


120 posted on 10/07/2004 10:59:55 AM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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