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Ok, maybe that was it? Bottlenecks! They just keep moving.

Posted on 10/05/2004 9:24:10 PM PDT by John Robinson

It's always something new with a complex system. We have frontends, backends and databases, not to mention ancillary services like DNS, mail, and internal gadgets. Something is bound to goober up.

A few months ago we were hitting the limits of our database environment. I added hardware and all was good... well, too good. The backends couldn't keep up, so I added hardware (just this weekend!), and all was good... until tonight, when things were once again too good. This time the frontend went on strike, overwhelmed.

A few years ago, when last looking at the scalability of our site, we made a choice, to save bandwidth, we spend extra CPU cycles to compress server responses. We achieve roughly a 60% savings.

Unfortunately, that takes a dear toll on our two little 933 MHz CPUs running the frontend. That toll looks something like this:

<code type="unix geek">

  8:15pm  up 2 days, 14:48, 11 users,  load average: 214.69, 160.02, 84.25
317 processes: 306 sleeping, 10 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states: 12.1% user, 69.0% system,  0.0% nice, 18.0% idle
CPU1 states: 12.0% user, 63.0% system,  0.0% nice, 24.0% idle
Mem:  2064712K av, 2050876K used,   13836K free,       0K shrd,   46816K buff
Swap: 2040244K av,   22900K used, 2017344K free                  223376K cached
</code>

Translation:

So... I added more hardware! That explains the second IP address (209.157.64.201, the first is 209.157.64.200.) In a few days your ISPs will have our updated DNS, and will automagically select one of the two frontends when you visit www.freerepublic.com.

The new frontend is a dual 1.4 GHz whopper. It along with it's older partner will have no trouble slinging compressed pages now, and saving roughly 2 grand a month. Oh, and when I said I added more hardware, well, I actually reassigned an older backend to frontend duty. I thought I may have to rearrange machines while I tune the system, so I made it easy ((cough)) to do.

We're running fine now. The peak load I saw was 130 requests per second. I figure we were probably doing 160-180 per second during the debate. No way to know for sure, the fire burned up our logs.

As for the new hardware, I know many people have been asking about it, and how the install went last weekend. I just haven't yet had the time to write what I wanted to write.

In summary, we added three Dell ((cough)) PowerEdge 1750 servers each with dual 2.8 GHz Intel Xeon processors and 1 Gigabyte of RAM. I was really impressed with the Dell machines out of the box, they're mean looking boxes and have more features than the barebones Supermicro kits I used before. Of course, the rails were too short for my rack and there was no table space to lay them. What else can a guy do but rebuild a rack on a Saturday night/Sunday morning? Ah, but that's for another story to tell.


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To: John Robinson
We run on PFM

Pure F'n Magic!!!

Becki

21 posted on 10/05/2004 9:36:48 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops.)
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To: Keith
Well, suffice it to say, those are some busy servers! Here's what my computer's top readout looks like for comparison:

top - 00:32:31 up 53 min, 1 user, load average: 0.50, 0.21, 0.07
Tasks: 65 total, 1 running, 64 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 6.7% us, 0.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 93.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Mem: 507040k total, 229372k used, 277668k free, 8616k buffers
Swap: 987956k total, 0k used, 987956k free, 156392k cached


Small wonder the FR servers were smoking...
22 posted on 10/05/2004 9:38:06 PM PDT by Ex-Dem (http://www.bugmenot.com <-- bypass those registration forms on news websites)
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To: John Robinson
Pretty good load on that box! Our load wasn't nearly that high and we replaced it with this (with dual Opteron 246s) - it'll arrive on Friday. Can't wait... We've been running Mandrake 8.1 for a couple of years and are switching to SUSE.
23 posted on 10/05/2004 9:40:11 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: LibWhacker
I'm unhappy the consumer brand Pentiums are no longer SMP capable. They were always good for a cheap dual box. These servers weren't bad though, around $2,000 a pop. Wish they had more memory, though. Memcached is hungry.
24 posted on 10/05/2004 9:41:03 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: hatfieldmccoy

fair nough...

<crawls back into his hole thoroughly Cheney-spanked...hehe.


25 posted on 10/05/2004 9:42:18 PM PDT by Keith (JOHN KERRY...IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE III SECTION 3 OF THE US CONSTITUTION)
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To: John Robinson

John, you are a cool dude. Keep it up.


26 posted on 10/05/2004 9:42:23 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: John Robinson

I never understand this computer lingo. Are we supposed to bookmark one or the other? I am so confused!


27 posted on 10/05/2004 9:43:52 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: Keith

Ignor that one hardnose poster -

I didn't understand much of it either but I'm glad he(the operator) knows what it is that needs doing when things go wrong - this site is great and it would be a big blow if we lost it, in my opinion -

just my thoughts - take care now -


28 posted on 10/05/2004 9:48:35 PM PDT by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: scripter

That looks fun. I have no experience with AMD but have been meaning to give them a try.


29 posted on 10/05/2004 9:48:46 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson

Nice Try John, but we all know it was Bush's fault.

Look for Brokejaw to report this tomorrow as another example of Political Jihadery..

On a lighter note. Thanks for all you do in the background to let us, the Pajamahadeen take serious advantage of your skills in getting this site to keep running.

Keep up the great work, and I appreciate you letting us make this a part of our home as well.

Regards,
Joe


30 posted on 10/05/2004 9:49:07 PM PDT by Sonar5 ("Global Test" - 2004 = "I'm an Internationalist" - 1970)
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To: ladyinred

Don't touch that dial!


31 posted on 10/05/2004 9:49:44 PM PDT by John Robinson
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To: Pete'sWife
I bought a new computer. I could actually hear the gears grinding. The synchromesh thingie was shot.

You should take it to one of those shops with the sign:
Computer Spin Balancing

Take your computer in there and have it spin-balanced. That'll take care of the noise.

32 posted on 10/05/2004 9:50:46 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: John Robinson

While we're all speaking techie here, I've been dying to ask you what your database backend is. I assumed it was Oracle. I'm guessing it wouldn't be MS SQL Server for the load. How big is your database?

I'm an experienced & certified Sybase DBA, also working a little with Oracle and Microsoft SQL Server (the latter being the same as Sybase at one time). Hence the curiosity about your database.


33 posted on 10/05/2004 9:51:37 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: John Robinson

We considered the Apple G5 with duals (on FreeBSD) as well, just too much money, and Dell was another $900 or so, wo we went with the Opteron's (just over $3500) with a terabyte of data. If high tech picks up we'll need a number of 'em.


34 posted on 10/05/2004 9:57:18 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: John Robinson

I have no idea what you said but the flaming icon gives me some idea. And I could log into Free Republic tonight when 4 years ago I had trouble getting in on a busy night so I'm happy!


35 posted on 10/05/2004 10:00:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Save a Democrat! Vote Republican!)
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To: John Robinson

(three Dell ((cough)) PowerEdge 1750 servers each with dual 2.8 GHz Intel Xeon processors and 1 Gigabyte of RAM.)

Damn If I had that much computing power......oh I'd probably waste it playing 3D shooters and downloading .....nevermind.


36 posted on 10/05/2004 10:01:31 PM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
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To: John Robinson
I have no experience with AMD but have been meaning to give them a try.

My Hubby and our son, Darksheare, love AMD. Hubby won't buy anything else. I know nothing about computers but I "know" AMD. I hear it all the time. LOL!!!

37 posted on 10/05/2004 10:03:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Save a Democrat! Vote Republican!)
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To: John Robinson
I am too dumb on the technical side to understand anything you said, other than the general concept. But the meaning of that is clear. You worked as hard and efficiently as possible, to serve the crunch needs of people who poured their hearts out on FR tonight.

That much I understand, and congratulations and thank you.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "And the Debate Winner is -- Lemony Snicket"

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38 posted on 10/05/2004 10:03:06 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: John Robinson
Wow, $2,000 for a dual fire-breathing Xenon server . . . Not bad at all, John!!! Never heard of memcached. That was a cool link, thanks, and I enjoyed reading about it. Man, this technology is moving like crazy. Can't keep up, lol! I'm glad you're keeping up, though. :-)

Really, really good job!

39 posted on 10/05/2004 10:05:06 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: John Robinson
John -

Do you have time to post your complete hardware configuration in terms of front-end, back-end, database, etc. servers, memory, disk, and bandwidth? (I probably have enough hardware to replicate the site, but assume that I suffer on bandwidth)

Also - is your setup something that might lend itself to a backup site - i.e. is there a way to keep the database in sync between two different sites?

-tb
40 posted on 10/05/2004 10:13:05 PM PDT by tahoeblue
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