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Rangel votes against own draft measure
The Hill ^ | 10/06/04 | Michael S. Gerber

Posted on 10/05/2004 8:29:03 PM PDT by nypokerface

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) did something a little unusual yesterday. First he protested when Republican leadership scheduled his own bill for a vote.

Then he sent out a letter encouraging his Democratic colleagues to vote against it.

Rangel’s bill, which the leadership had placed on the suspension calendar, would create a national-service draft under which all 18- to 26-year-olds would serve in the military or perform two years of national service as determined by the president. Rangel has been advocating a draft for several years, but he argued yesterday that the bill was too important for the suspension calendar, “which is reserved for non-controversial items,” he said in a statement.

Bills on the suspension calendar cannot be amended on the floor and require two-thirds of the House to clear the chamber.

Rangel accused Republicans of using his bill to assuage fears that President Bush had plans to reinstate the draft, stating, “The Republican leadership decision to place the draft legislation on the suspension Calendar is a political maneuver to kill rumors of the President’s intention to reinstate the draft after the November election.”

He went on to urge Democrats running for reelection to vote no.

“I am voting no, because my bill deserves serious consideration,” his statement continued.

“It should be subject to hearings and to expert testimony. The administration should come and tell us about our manpower needs, about recruitment and retention, about the extent to which out troops are overextended. And they should give us their views about shared sacrifice. If they did all of those things in a serious way, they would have to admit that my bill is an option.”

Democrats said Republican leaders gave them no notice that the Rangel bill was headed to the floor.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: draft; iwontvoteformybill; rangel; whatalooser
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1 posted on 10/05/2004 8:29:03 PM PDT by nypokerface
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To: nypokerface

bwahahahahaha

sorry, charlie.


2 posted on 10/05/2004 8:30:16 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: nypokerface
It's called a backfire, Charley, you dumbass.

Eat another sandpaper donut.

3 posted on 10/05/2004 8:30:30 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: nypokerface

Is that saying about being "hoisted by your own petard" appropriate here?


4 posted on 10/05/2004 8:31:52 PM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: nypokerface

WOW...Ole Charlie is such an idiot.


5 posted on 10/05/2004 8:32:52 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud (all)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun
n'thing like a flaming democrat hypocrite Rangel, what a loser!
6 posted on 10/05/2004 8:34:23 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: nypokerface
He sponsored it before he was against it. Rangel is the standard by which all Democrats should measure themselves.
7 posted on 10/05/2004 8:34:37 PM PDT by etradervic (If Kerry is the answer, could you please repeat the question?)
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To: nypokerface

*snort!*

(I love it when a plan comes together!)


8 posted on 10/05/2004 8:35:38 PM PDT by Monkey Face (I don't believe in superstition; it only brings bad luck.)
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To: nypokerface
If you can't run with the big dogs, don't get off the porch.

Quote you will NOT hear from Rangel:

"I love it when a plan comes together"
9 posted on 10/05/2004 8:38:08 PM PDT by JrAsparagus
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10 posted on 10/05/2004 8:40:38 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: nypokerface

"I actually voted for my own draft bill.... before I voted against it."


11 posted on 10/05/2004 8:41:26 PM PDT by gogipper (Zell Miller -- At last a Democrat who isn't truth impaired.....Give 'em hell Zell.)
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To: nypokerface

big time ping


12 posted on 10/05/2004 8:41:37 PM PDT by mentor2k
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“The Republican leadership decision to place the draft legislation on the suspension Calendar is a political maneuver to kill rumors of the President’s intention to reinstate the draft after the November election.”

DUH!!!! The Dems were using this as a political maneuver to put fear into every parent and young adult. How dare he expect the Republicans to sit back and let the Dems get away with spreading this horrible rumor. Major backfire on this one. He looks like a fool. Sorry. He is a fool.


13 posted on 10/05/2004 8:44:45 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: nypokerface

Translation: Rangel wants his bill out there, hanging, never actually voted upon. What a friggin' joke.


14 posted on 10/05/2004 8:45:23 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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He went on to urge Democrats running for reelection to vote no.
you mean some of the (donkeys) were going to vote for it? are they retarded or what?
15 posted on 10/05/2004 8:48:22 PM PDT by dhm005 (die hippies die....)
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To: nypokerface

What is the H 'bill number'.


16 posted on 10/05/2004 8:57:27 PM PDT by greasepaint
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To: nypokerface
I met a co worker yesterday that was very worried the draft was on the way back.

She was shocked and did not believe all of the bills sponsors were democrats.

I made a bet with her that I would vote for John Kerry, if she could find one republican who would vote for it and she would have to vote for Bush, if I was right.

I'm not counting on her to keep her word, she is a democrat after all.

17 posted on 10/05/2004 8:58:11 PM PDT by Popman (Mozilla Rules, I.E. Drools)
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To: imskylark
Sounds to me like it was very uncontroversial. No one--not even its author--supported it. Was it voted down by unanimous consent? How about this: did anyone actually vote FOR the bill?
18 posted on 10/05/2004 9:01:28 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: dead
You should be nice to Charley. IIRC, if the Dems retake the House, he's gonna be the next Chairman of the
Way & Means committee.
19 posted on 10/05/2004 9:07:10 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: nypokerface

Another "brilliant" rat idea bites the dust.


20 posted on 10/05/2004 9:09:50 PM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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