Posted on 10/05/2004 5:15:05 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
WASHINGTON - U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., warned President Bush on Monday not to play politics with homeland security, after the White House reportedly asked Congress to remove some immigration measures from a pending intelligence bill.
The legislation is meant to overhaul the nation's intelligence services, implementing recommendations of the commission that studied the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
A House version of the bill includes provisions to speed the deportation of illegal immigrants and prevent them from obtaining driver's licenses.
It would also ban official use of identification cards that some foreign governments issue.
Tancredo said Bush has asked that those provisions be removed from the bill.
This is about the Mexican Marticular Consular I am sure.
Tancredo is right.
Incoming.
Ugh. I totally agree with Tancredo on this, BUT..........I wish he would have WAITED......say......29 days to say it.
If the Bush Administration didn't want it brought up then perhaps they should have waited to make their desired changes known. Don't blame Tancredo for responding in a manner consistant with his beliefs.
Okay. Should I blame Tancredo for helping Kerry to get elected?
Now is not the time to be breaking the 11th commandment. Reagan would not be pleased.
I agree with Tancredo, but this is not the time. He's just being used by the MSM. Recently I saw him as a guest on CNN; the host hung on his every word as if it were gospel - far from the treatment a Republican usually gets. Tancredo seemed unaware that CNN was treating him nicely only because he was bashing Bush.
This ain't RR's republican party.
Tabcredo is a liar and fraud. His campaign against Mexican immigrants has nothing whatsoever to do with homeland security. Terrorists do not sneak across the border, they enter at official immigration points using documents issued by legitimate government agencies.
Tancredo is the idiot who proposed a 5% tax on transactions which almost exclusively applied to one American corporation. The silly airhead backed off as soon as someone informed him that the company was headquartered in his district and was the largest employer in his district. Karl Rove threw him out of the White House months ago with instructions to never come back.
If this were to help elect Kerry, then the blame should be placed squarely on Bush and Karl Rove. To blame Tancredo would be absurd. He is fighting for provisions that most Americans would approve of.
Bush is bascially coming out against popular provisions to fight illegal immigration. This is insane. He will not gain any support from Hispanics on this because Kerry and the Dems can out pander Bush and the GOP any day of the week, and because they are going to vote overwhelmingly for Kerry for reasons unrelated to immigration. Somebody should really clue Rove in on this.
As to Tancredo; it should be noted that he has a lifetime rating of 97 out of 100 from the American Conservative Union. His conservative credentials are beyond dispute, and he has backed President Bush on the two defining areas of his first term -- the tax cuts and the war on terrorism. He has shown tremendous loyalty to Bush and the GOP on pretty much everything except immigration, and on that he holds the conservative positions while Bush's are of the left.
Tancredo has no 'campaign against Mexican immigrants.' I notice you resorted to a leftwing tactic there of calling illegal Mexican aliens simply 'Mexican immigrants.' Vicente Fox thanks you. But anyway, Tancredo does oppose rewarding illegal aliens with amnesty, drivers licenses, and in-state tuition, and he thinks that legal immigration should be reduced. In holding these views he has revealed himself to be in the mainstream of American opinion. Most polls taken on these topics show most Americans agree with Tancredo.
As to conservatives who hold conservative views on immigration helping to elect Kerry: Well again, Bush has no one to blame but himself for pursuing a policy of pandering; a policy that will not win the loyalty of latios (why should it?--their preferred Dems already hold these positions) but that may indeed alienate many of the people who are actually naturally inclined to vote for the GOP w/o being pandered to. But having said all of that, I think its safe to say that most of the base who has been upset by Bush's liberal immigration policies will nontheless vote for him because of the simple fact that immigration is not a litmus-test, make or break, top-tier issue with most voters. And because as bad as Bush is on immigration, Kerry would actually be worse, as impossible as that sounds. And because Kerry is awful on just about every issue, whereas Bush is terrible only on a few.
So don't worry. Most conservatives who disagree with Bush on immigration will be there for him on election day. It would be nice in a second term if in simple gratitude Bush could at least refrain from using the leftwing rhetoric of mass immigration-enthusiasts to smear those who disagree with him on this.
"Terrorists do not sneak across the border, they enter at official immigration points using documents issued by legitimate government agencies."
What in the world have you been smoking? That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've seen in the forum in the past 6 years
Republicans will not forget or forgive Tancredo for his treasonous behavior. Anyone on his staff who doesn't resign in protest of Tancredo's attacks on the President better start practicing saying "would you like frys with that?" because after the election they won't be welcome anywhere in politics or government.
There is no similarity between advocating a different position on issues (eg McCain, Lugar, Ron Paul etc..) and personally attacking the President with lies three weeks before a close election.
Tancredo has proven beyond doubt that his loyalty is to Pat Buchanan, not the Republican Party or President Bush, or conservatives or the people of this nation.
Terrorists don't need to walk for days across a desert or swim the Rio Grange. They have the government sponsored resources to get official passports, identification papers and visas. All of the terrorists involved in 9/11 entered the U.S. legally. Under false pretenses yes, but with legal visas.
Think about it. The odds of anyone swimming the river or crawling the desert getting caught by the border patrol is at least 10%. Everyone swimming the river is automatically guilty, no one flying first class is automatically guilty. The odds of someone with a valid visa and no prior terrorist record being caught is zero. Then add the odds of being sold out by the coyote for the rewards offered by the U.S., dying in the desert, or being killed by the smugglers for your money, and a terrorist would have to be an idiot to try illegally crossing the border.
Congressman Culbertson recently set out the route that terrorists have taken to enter the U.S. from Mexico. It is across official border crossings using government issued papers.
But the Buchanan/Tancredo devotees are so filled with hatred of Mexican immigrants that they will embrace any propaganda to legitimize their feelings.
This sounds a bit rash, but their rhetoric makes me wonder if maybe you aren't right.
No I do not work for Tancredo.
So let me get this straight. Tancredo holds views on immigration that are much more in line with most Americans, and w/o question w/ most conservatives, yet he is being disloyal to conservatives? I guess his near-perfect conseravtive voting record means nothing to you. Again, I guess his support for and loyalty to Bush and the party on tax cuts and Iraq mean nothing to you.
He dares publically disagree with the President over the President's bad immigration policies so we should throw him to the dogs, right? Well that bodes well for conservativism. What about other social issues on which the GOP leadership decides to abandon its base? Must we also all eagerly embrace racial preferences now because the President has?
And what lies did he tell? Is it true or not that the White House wanted the anti-illegal immigration measures removed? If Bush weren't so far out in left field on immigration he could see that these provisions would go over well with most Americans. Yeah, they'd be demonized by the Dems and radical groups like La Raza, but if you calmly make it known to Americans that the bill would help deport illegal aliens, and deprive them of other rewards like drivers licenses then Americans would support the bill. Those are popular ideas, and they could only do Bush good if he embraced them.
That doesn't mean much when this close to an election his is openly opposing Bush. That stinks.
"But the Buchanan/Tancredo devotees are so filled with hatred of Mexican immigrants that they will embrace any propaganda to legitimize their feelings."
You must be a leftwinger, because that is a typical liberal tactic -- if you disagree in the slightest with the pro-unending mass immigration enthusiasts then it must be because you hate Mexicans, or immigrants in general.
It can't possibly be for any rational reason can it? No, its because we hate Mexicans. Ted Kennedy would be proud. Thanks for letting me know that, because here I was thinking that my opposition to mass immigration had to do with reasons relating to history, the economy, politics, etc. But now I know its because I hate Mexicans.
Whatever
I see you also insist on using the term 'Mexican immigrants' when it should be 'illegal Mexican immigrants.' Don't tell me you've also adopted the leftwing tactic of forever removing the word 'illegal' when speaking of illegal aliens.
Now exactly what hate-filled rhetoric has Tancredo used when speaking of 'Mexican immigrants'? What about Buchanan?
Its my guess that your idea of hate filled speech is in reality a expression of what happens to be mainstream, majority American views on immigration.
He's opposing Bush on the specifics of a certain bill, not Bush in general.
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