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House Debates and Votes on Draft LIVE THREAD - BILL DEFEATED
C-SPAN | 10/05/2004 | C-SPAN

Posted on 10/05/2004 3:35:40 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats

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To: t_skoz

Are they?

I love the Republicans!!! Even Rangel didn't vote for it. LOL! Why, if he believed in this bill enough to advance it, didn't he vote for it? ROFL


121 posted on 10/05/2004 4:31:20 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: MEG33

Yeh, they couldn't afford to vote for it and then go home for reelection and try to convince their electorate we need a full-fledged military draft.


122 posted on 10/05/2004 4:31:30 PM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: t_skoz

Al Gore must be weaping over that one.


123 posted on 10/05/2004 4:31:41 PM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Wow, a Republican from Arizona! With that sock puppet governor they have, I was beginning to wonder about them.

McCain could throw you off a little too, seriesly.

124 posted on 10/05/2004 4:32:30 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: HoustonTech

No prob.
We all think we know what each other is thinking, so we sometimes forget to type with the relative context of the thread (like me).


125 posted on 10/05/2004 4:33:35 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
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To: AVNevis
Maybe this will stop all the rumors; "Bush wants to Draft you!"

Well, you just never know about Dan Rather and the DNCBS News!

Expect Cheney to use this event in the debate tonight!

126 posted on 10/05/2004 4:33:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: t_skoz

I would guess Washington's Jim McDermott is one of the two democrats.


127 posted on 10/05/2004 4:34:41 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: TexasCajun

The idiotic thing about the whole "secret draft" campaign and the citing of this bill is that the 108th Congress ends on Jan 2. Next year, it's a new Congress and all legislation would have to be reintroduced. Not that any college student would have the slightest idea how our gummint works!


128 posted on 10/05/2004 4:35:53 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: Right Cal Gal
I think it was Rangel and his Rat cosponsor?

I hope our guys liked the feeling of kicking some Rat Butt and will do more of it in the future!

129 posted on 10/05/2004 4:37:49 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TomGuy

Make 'em come & take 'em back!!


130 posted on 10/05/2004 4:41:21 PM PDT by GoLightly (If it doesn't kill ya, it makes ya stronger.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

I forgot all about this..........


131 posted on 10/05/2004 4:41:23 PM PDT by OXENinFLA (So sKerry pulled a pen from his jacket, he still broke rules he agreed to..)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Holy Crap.

I've now been on FR long enough today to see:

1. A bill get proposed for a vote, and that vote completed and...
2. An FR fundraiser begin and end.

(and I still have 3 more HPLC runs to do)

I think I'm gonna be seeing the "post" and "refresh" buttons in my dreams tonight. :|


132 posted on 10/05/2004 4:42:43 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: TexasCajun
Maybe this will stop all the rumors; "Bush wants to Draft you!" Expect Cheney to use this event in the debate tonight!

We'll see..

sw

133 posted on 10/05/2004 4:47:00 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

H R 163 2/3 YEA-AND-NAY 5-Oct-2004 7:29 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass
BILL TITLE: Universal National Service Act


Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 215 12
Democratic 2 186 17
Independent 1
TOTALS 2 402 29




---- YEAS 2 ---

Murtha
Stark


134 posted on 10/05/2004 4:56:33 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: TomGuy

How did Kucinich vote (or did he even show up?)


135 posted on 10/05/2004 5:06:35 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
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To: spectre
It will stop all the rumors ONLY if we mount an email campaign of equal size. Many of the college kids' Moms are TOTALLY disconnected from the news.

Speaking to Iowa voters Monday, Bush said, "We will not have a draft so long as I am president of the United States." see for yourself:   http://snipurl.com/9kd5    email THIS:  http://FreedomKeys.com/draftscam.htm

136 posted on 10/05/2004 5:33:45 PM PDT by FreeKeys (Kerry's idea of giving the Iranian ayatollahs nuclear fuel is NUTS -- insanity of the worst order.)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Do you have a list of the no-votes?


137 posted on 10/05/2004 5:51:18 PM PDT by nonkultur
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To: nonkultur

---- YEAS 2 ---

Murtha
Stark



---- NAYS 402 ---

Abercrombie
Ackerman
Aderholt
Akin
Alexander
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Bachus
Baird
Baker
Baldwin
Ballenger
Barrett (SC)
Bartlett (MD)
Barton (TX)
Bass
Beauprez
Becerra
Bell
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Biggert
Bilirakis
Bishop (GA)
Bishop (NY)
Bishop (UT)
Blackburn
Blumenauer
Blunt
Boehner
Bonilla
Bonner
Bono
Boozman
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Bradley (NH)
Brady (PA)
Brady (TX)
Brown (SC)
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Burgess
Burns
Burr
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Calvert
Camp
Cantor
Capito
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Cardoza
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Chandler
Chocola
Clay
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Coble
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Costello
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Crenshaw
Crowley
Cubin
Culberson
Cummings
Cunningham
Davis (AL)
Davis (CA)
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
Davis (TN)
Davis, Jo Ann
Davis, Tom
Deal (GA)
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DeLauro
DeLay
Deutsch
Diaz-Balart, L.
Diaz-Balart, M.
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Dingell
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Doolittle
Doyle
Dreier
Duncan
Dunn
Edwards
Ehlers
Emanuel
Emerson
Engel
English
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
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Farr
Fattah
Feeney
Ferguson
Filner
Flake
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Ford
Fossella
Frank (MA)
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Frelinghuysen
Frost
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Garrett (NJ)
Gerlach
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Gilchrest
Gillmor
Gingrey
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Gordon
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Harman
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Hayworth
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Israel
Issa
Istook
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Jefferson
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Johnson (IL)
Johnson, E. B.
Johnson, Sam
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Kanjorski
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Kind
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Lee
Levin
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LoBiondo
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Lowey
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Matsui
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McKeon
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Meehan
Meek (FL)
Menendez
Mica
Michaud
Miller (FL)
Miller (MI)
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Miller, Gary
Miller, George
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Moore
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Moran (VA)
Murphy
Musgrave
Myrick
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal (MA)
Neugebauer
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Nunes
Nussle
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
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Osborne
Ose
Otter
Owens
Oxley
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Paul
Payne
Pearce
Pelosi
Pence
Peterson (MN)
Peterson (PA)
Petri
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Weldon (PA)
Weller
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Whitfield
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Wilson (NM)
Wilson (SC)
Wolf
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Young (AK)
Young (FL)



---- NOT VOTING 29 ---

Boehlert
Brown (OH)
Brown, Corrine
Cannon
Cox
DeMint
Dooley (CA)
Forbes
Gephardt
Greenwood
Hoeffel
John
Jones (OH)
Kaptur
Kleczka
Kucinich
Lampson
Majette
McIntyre
Meeks (NY)
Millender-McDonald
Nethercutt
Norwood
Portman
Pryce (OH)
Sandlin
Slaughter
Tauzin
Terry


138 posted on 10/05/2004 5:55:42 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: mabelkitty

Dennis didn't vote. A disproportionate members of the Ohio delegation didn't vote -- probably due to the debate tonight.


139 posted on 10/05/2004 5:56:48 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: You Dirty Rats

Doh!
You are right.
I hadn't thought of that, even though I live right up here!


140 posted on 10/05/2004 5:59:13 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
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