The phrase "E Pluribus Unum" is long forgotten now.
Irish or Italians, it doesn't matter -- the Red Sox will lose come October.
Just doesn't sound right, eh?
That's what I'm tawkin about!
Faith and begorrah, don't be forgettin' the Kerrys.
The Italians can have it, and the whole state of Taxachusetts along with it.
...But the Italians still vote Democrat! Fuggedaboutit!
The divisions evaporated because after World War II the Italians and the Irish intermarried like crazy.
For those interested in such things, Italian Americans are the largest group by ancestry in Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey (duh) and New York. I believe gli Paisani are also the number one ethnic group in Delaware as well, and second only to the Germans in Pennsylvania.
Keep in mind, however, that such figures include person such as myself that are of mixed ancestry. I may not have a vowel at the end of my name (my mom does), but I am counted as "Italian American" in census surveys.
Of course, upward mobility and intermarriage mean that such distinctions as Italian-American and Polish-American (my two tribes) are of less importance, particularly outside the northeast and certain parts of the midwest. Being third generation, I have greater "cultural" loyalty to the region of I was raised in than to any ethnicity.
The Irish only got into politics so we could get a job.
Since the "bluebloods" wouldn't hire us...
Remember the N.I.N.A.(NO IRISH NEED APPLY) signs.
Well the Irish have since prospered, educated their children and grandchildren and moved on...
You can have Taxachusetts!
Eh, they can HAVE it, AND the Red Saaaawks!
Where would the zeppole be without tribalism :)
Where would the linguini be without tribalism :)
Where would the parmigiana be without tribalism :)
::motioning with hands and using Momma Nome's broken accent::
Oh Goody!!!! Gold chains for everyone!
Old news. The Italians have run Boston and Massachusetts for many years now.
Unfortunately, many politicians of either ethnic group do not take their Catholic faith seriously and use the government to promote abortion and homosexual activity (through civil same sex marriage).
I love Italian food.
well another solution is to just purge Massachuttes and be done with it.
IIRC, both Ireland and Italy have become net recipients of immigrants rather than sources of emigration in the last ten or twenty years, but the Irish are still coming here. This is the Italian moment, but if it matters at all, the Irish, with their specialized political skills, are apt to win this tribal derby in the end.
In the "old days" an Irish-Italian wedding was regarded as a "mixed marriage." But that's long a thing of the past. The old, ethnic-dominated Catholic parishes are closing down as well, and that's a sad thing for those who remember how things were.
:-)