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Move Over, Irish; Italians Now Rule Boston
Associated Press ^ | Oct 5, 2004 | Jennifer Peter

Posted on 10/05/2004 12:54:35 PM PDT by Pharmboy

BOSTON (AP) - In this land of Kennedys, O'Neills, Fitzgeralds and Flynns, where shamrocks grace the jerseys of the basketball team, the Italians are taking over. With the ascendancy of Salvatore DiMasi to the speakership of the Massachusetts House last week, Italian-Americans hold the two top positions in the state Legislature for the first time in its 224-year history.

"Finally," said Sheryl Iftikhar (maiden name Spataro), who works at a convenience store in DiMasi's lifelong home, the city's North End, a neighborhood where visitors can buy signs that read "Parking for Italians Only."

DiMasi, who took over from Irishman Tom Finneran, joins Senate President Robert Travaglini, a fellow Boston Democrat who became leader of that chamber in 2003, as well as Boston Mayor Thomas Menino and State Auditor Joe DeNucci in the heights of the state's power structure.

Last Wednesday, they stood side-by-side as DiMasi made his official debut as the new speaker and listened to a blessing given by the vicar of the Old North Church in DiMasi's neighborhood.

"I doubt that earlier residents of Massachusetts ... could imagine all the repercussions of hanging two lanterns in the steeple of the Old North Church," said Vicar Steve Ayres, referring to Paul Revere's ride. "Nor could they imagine that the two beacons of light now keeping the flame of liberty alive in the North End for the state of Massachusetts would be named DiMasi and Travaglini."

The Irish remain dominant in Massachusetts, with 23 percent of residents declaring their Hibernian roots in the 2000 census - the highest of any state and far ahead of Italians, who make up 14.5 percent of the population.

Over the years, ties to the Emerald Isle have been seen as a huge political advantage in Massachusetts. So much so that a minor controversy arose last year when a genealogist hired by The Boston Globe revealed that John Kerry is not of Irish descent after all. The Massachusetts senator, whose grandfather was born to Austrian-Jewish parents, says he never claimed Irish ancestry.

While three Italian-Americans have served as governor - most recently Argeo Paul Cellucci - the state's pantheon of legendary leaders is purely Irish: former U.S. House Speaker Thomas "Tip" O'Neill, Rep. Joseph Moakley of the Irish bastion of South Boston, longtime Boston Mayor James Michael Curley, former state Senate President William Bulger, and President Kennedy and his brother Sen. Edward M. Kennedy.

But the Irish-American grip on power has weakened.

"We've got Menino, we've got Travaglini, we've got DiMasi. What more could we want?" said Johnny "Shoes" Cammarata, presiding in his North End barbershop, Johnny & Gino's. "It's a good, good feeling. The Irish had their day. Now it's our time."

The Irish appear to be taking the success of Italian-Americans in stride, comforted by the number of politicians sharing their ancestry who remain prominent in city and state politics. Among them: Boston Council President Michael Flaherty, Judiciary Committee chairman Eugene O'Flaherty, and Boston Police Commissioner Kathleen O'Toole.

"Things goes in cycles," said John J. Somers, owner of the Green Dragon Irish Pub, who emigrated from County Kerry to Boston in 1971. "But it's not the nationality that matters. It's the man. And I think a lot of Irish women have been marrying Italians over the past 50 years, so we still have our influence."

When immigrants from both countries streamed into Boston in the 19th and early 20th centuries, the Irish at first gained the upper hand. But the divisions have long since evaporated, said DeNucci, 65, the state's auditor since 1987, who grew up in an Italian enclave in Newton.

"It was a real rivalry growing up," he said. "We were behind in terms of the Irish because the Italians came here and they couldn't speak the language. We faced discrimination from the people who were here before us. We were pegged as gangsters. We really never got any credit for any major contributions we made."

One thing the transition will mean, DiMasi said this week, is that there will be a little more demonstrative affection flowing through the House. DiMasi on Wednesday called the Italians an "emotional breed" and then proved it by embracing nearly ever person he encountered in the House, including Gov. Mitt Romney - twice.

"I hope you realize when I came in that under my speakership there's going to be a lot of hugging going on," DiMasi said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: boston; irish; irishamericans; italian; italianamericans; italy; kerry; tribalism
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To: bowzer313

>>>...But the Italians still vote Democrat! Fuggedaboutit!


They do? Not my family.


21 posted on 10/05/2004 1:12:06 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pharmboy

Oh Goody!!!! Gold chains for everyone!


22 posted on 10/05/2004 1:13:45 PM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: Clemenza


>>>Italian-American and Polish-American (my two tribes)

A little tip for you. NO kielbasa in the pasta gravy, ok :)

My goodness, you were so PC in your post. I'm a gavone. Not an Italian American :)


23 posted on 10/05/2004 1:18:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
...and no Marinara on the Pierogi (I've tried and its gross).

BTW: My handle on Chowhound.com is "guidopolack."

24 posted on 10/05/2004 1:20:30 PM PDT by Clemenza (Say NO to Rudy in 2008.)
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To: Clemenza

>>>...and no Marinara on the Pierogi (I've tried and its gross).

OH MY!

How could you?

That certainly earns guidopolack!!!


25 posted on 10/05/2004 1:24:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Pharmboy

Old news. The Italians have run Boston and Massachusetts for many years now.


26 posted on 10/05/2004 1:33:39 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Doc Savage
It could be worse. If the Dominicans became dominant (they are the largest ethnic group in NYC now) it would mean gigantic San Lazaro medallions to go with the gold chains.

Let's not forget 1982 IROC RZs with dice in the mirror and a horn. That's what the guys in my nabe on Lawn Guyland were driving back in the day.

27 posted on 10/05/2004 1:33:39 PM PDT by Clemenza (Say NO to Rudy in 2008.)
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To: Calpernia

OK--let's keep the food and some of the funky ethnic dances, but STILL be Americans.


28 posted on 10/05/2004 1:36:14 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Heh, All I know is that I'm Germanic.


29 posted on 10/05/2004 1:36:45 PM PDT by John Will
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To: Pharmboy
OK--let's keep the food and some of the funky ethnic dances, but STILL be Americans.

True. Unfortunately, upward mobility among certain ethnic groups means that its is getting harder and harder to find good pizza and bagels, even in New York.

30 posted on 10/05/2004 1:39:51 PM PDT by Clemenza (Say NO to Rudy in 2008.)
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To: Pharmboy

Unfortunately, many politicians of either ethnic group do not take their Catholic faith seriously and use the government to promote abortion and homosexual activity (through civil same sex marriage).


31 posted on 10/05/2004 1:40:47 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Pharmboy
Being of Irish descent...

I love Italian food.

32 posted on 10/05/2004 1:46:11 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: bowzer313
...But the Italians still vote Democrat! Fuggedaboutit!

Only is Masterchewsit.

Down in the Bronx, Queens, Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Long Island, and South Philly, our Italians vote Republican.

Quick, name a single prominent Italian Democrat from NY, NJ, or PA!

33 posted on 10/05/2004 1:48:06 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Clemenza

Pierogi or Gnocchi ... decisions, decisions ...


34 posted on 10/05/2004 1:50:09 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Pharmboy

well another solution is to just purge Massachuttes and be done with it.


35 posted on 10/05/2004 1:52:47 PM PDT by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Pharmboy
CLICK!!!!!
36 posted on 10/05/2004 1:54:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Clemenza
And bread!

It is absolutely useless to embrace any ethnic heritage without the mom and pop specialty stores that carry the ingredience needed to enjoy the heritage.
37 posted on 10/05/2004 1:57:38 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Try Addeo's and Madonia in the Bronx for bread. Both are worth the drive and the salumerias and bakeries on the Arthur Avenue/187th Street corridor still do a strong business, although most of their customers now live in Jersey and Westchester.


38 posted on 10/05/2004 2:01:20 PM PDT by Clemenza (Say NO to Rudy in 2008.)
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To: Clemenza

I am from Jurzey.


39 posted on 10/05/2004 2:02:58 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Well since Mario Cuomo (who lost the Italian vote in '82) and Geraldine Ferraro (who's major constituencies were the Jews and the Irish anyhow in north and central Queens anyhow) are gone, I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Isn't Santorum half-Italian?

40 posted on 10/05/2004 2:04:35 PM PDT by Clemenza (Say NO to Rudy in 2008.)
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