[mabelkitty]

Wanna bet every Democrat votes against it, as well?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

There is no urgency. The bill is DOA.

[babaloo999]

So, this should make the ABCBSNBC news and everyone will know it's a dem sponsored bill, eh?
What's that, I'm dreaming?

[Old Sarge]

MAJOR All-Hands PING-BUMP!!!

Confirm or deny - if it's true...

[OXENinFLA]

Wanna Bet EVERY House Republican votes AGAINST IT?

Pfffffffff, And a BUNCH of dems will vote againts it too.

[Pete]

This thing is actually getting a vote? Really? I would have to see the schedule to believe it.

[So Cal Rocket]

LOL!!! I was wondering when the Republicans were going to do this... no better way to put the draft rumor to rest is to pull Rangel's bill out of committee (where it has sat untouched for over a year and a half) and put it on the floor for a vote.

Ayes - 14 (all Socialists)
Nays - 421

Bill is DEAD.

[counterpunch]

Hey all, about this bill and the urban legend and email circulating about it.
We should use it to our advantage.
Rather than saying "it's not true" or "it's been debunked" we should explain the situation. Rather than throwing away the Democrat spin like a hot potato, untwist it:

This is a real pending bill, yes. But President Bush does not support it and would not sign it. It is sponsored entirely by Democrats, and John Kerry -- if elected -- is the one who would sign this Democrat bill into law.

Done.

[cynicom]

Americans would vote for it, politicians being cowards, will vote against it.

[claudiustg]

I find it hard to believe they would try to bring it up for a vote, but the RNC can always use the ammunition. Could it be that the Dims couldn't keep the committee from putting it out for a vote? In your face, Rangel!

[Congressman Billybob]

Nothing gets scheduled for a floor vote unless it has GONE THROUGH A COMMITTEE. That's how the House works. And the Speaker has the power to guarantee things happen only that way.

The only exception is if the Speaker decides to bring a dog of the bill to the floor just to stomp it into the mud. That would have the fringe benefit of publicly embarrassing the few Democrats who would be forced to vote for this nonsense, because they were the sponsors in the first place.

In short, the ONLY way this report can be true is if Speaker Hastert has decided to pound a wooden stake in the heart of the draft bill, here and now.

Congressman Billybob

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[Not A Snowbird]

I bet in this climate there will be NO votes for this. Good strategery to bring it up for a vote, though. Get everyone on the record and dispense this myth that's going around.

[Soul Seeker]

My only question is whether Rangel will vote for his own Bill. LOL

[michigander]

House expected to reject draft proposal

Washington, DC, Oct. 5 (UPI) -- The House of Representatives is expected to reject Tuesday a bill to reinstate the military draft.

The bill is sponsored by Rep. Charles Rangel, a New York Democrat, who introduced the legislation in an attempt to force Americans to consider the human cost of the war in Iraq. A majority of the enlisted recruits come from the lowest economic classes, a fact Rangel believes makes it easy for the middle and upper classes to support war, because it is not their children at risk.

The bill, H.R. 163, is expected to be defeated soundly. It would require every U.S. citizen and every other person residing in the country between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service, either as a member of the reserves or in a civilian capacity that promotes national defense.

Sen. Ernest Hollings, D-S.C., has introduced identical legislation. The Pentagon firmly opposes reinstating the draft.

[Busywhiskers]

What is HR 163? This the rascally republicans, disguised as socialist Dems, trying to start drafting the youth of America?

[mombrown1]

Just talked to my congressman's office to make sure. This is a lie. Hastert would never bring it to the floor. It was DOA when it was submitted. It is burried so deep even the democrats can't find it. Another Scare tactic.

[Non-Sequitur]

You sure about that? Last I heard the bill was still bottled up in committee. The only way it would get out of there would be if Republicans voted it to the floor. And they wouldn't be, couldn't be that stupid. Could they?

[stocksthatgoup]

From the Tuesday, October 5, 2004 issue:

Military draft issue a red herring

> During a campaign stop last week in West Palm Beach, Fla., Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry was asked if he thought President Bush would revive the military draft if re-elected.

"Is it possible?" Kerry replied. "I can't answer that."

During an appearance one week earlier in Parkersburg, W.Va., Kerry ticket-mate John Edwards was similarly queried about the draft. And rather than declaring it a non-issue, he simply responded, "There will be no draft when John Kerry is president."

Kerry and Edwards are playing to the fears of young Americans of ostensible draft age, as well as their parents, who have been hearing the bogus rumor that Bush has some secret plan to abandon the all-volunteer military in favor of conscripted service.

According to the false rumors, the Selective Service System has been given $28 million to prepare for the draft, and is secretly hiring 10,000 people for draft boards across the country. The rumor originated on the Internet, ginned up by hardcore activist groups dedicated to turning Bush out of the White House by any means possible. It has since been given undeserved legitimacy by CBS News, in a report aired last week.

CBS presented the story of Beverly Cocco, whom it portrayed as some sort of Everymom. "Beverly is petrified about the military draft," according to CBS, "and she's not alone. Mass e-mails are circulating among worried parents."

What CBS did not let on is that Cocco herself bears some responsibility for those mass e-mails. For she is the chapter president of an advocacy group, People Against the Draft, which not only opposes conscription, but also advocates pulling the troops out of Iraq.

That aside, every top official in the Bush administration -- including the president, vice president, secretary of state and secretary of defense -- has unequivocally stated there will be no revival of the draft.

In fact, the only proposals that the draft be revived have come from Democrats in Congress, which ultimately would have to approve a decision to conscript America's sons and daughters into involuntary military service. Those include a bill introduced last year by Sen. Ernest Hollings, D-S.C., which would have reinstated the draft, and companion legislation introduced in the House by Reps. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., Jim McDermott, D-Wash., John Lewis, D-Ga., Pete Stark, D-Calif., and Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii.

Neither President Bush nor Sen. Kerry, nor, for that matter, the vast majority of lawmakers on Capitol Hill have any intention of reinstituting the military draft. That's why the draft issue really is a red herring in this year's presidential election.

-- The San Diego Union-Tribune

[TexasCajun]

Another vote Awol Kerry will miss, no doubt?

Question: "Senator Kerry, why did you not feel it important enough to cast a vote on this democrat draft proposal you've been claiming was a republican idea?"

[Sprite518]

The Republicans need to expose the Liberals as pro draft after this legislation.