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DRUDGE: NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE (Registered voters, not likely voters polled)
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Posted on 10/02/2004 1:45:56 PM PDT by tsmith130
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NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
Sat Oct 02 2004 16:42:32 ET
New York-Sixty-one percent of Americans who watched the first presidential debate on September 30 say Sen. John Kerry won; 19 percent say President George W. Bush won and 16 percent say they tied, according to the latest Newsweek Poll which was conducted after the debate ended. Fifty-six percent say Kerry did better than they expected; 11 percent say so for Bush. Thirty-eight percent say Bush did worse than expected; 3 percent say so for Kerry, the poll shows.
The debate erased the lead the Bush/Cheney ticket has held over Kerry/Edwards in the Newsweek Poll since the Republican convention. In a three-way trial heat including Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo, among registered voters Kerry/Edwards leads Bush/Cheney 47 percent v. 45 percent with 2 percent for Nader/Camejo. In a two-way heat, Kerry/Edwards leads 49 percent v. 46 percent for Bush/Cheney, the poll shows.
A 62-percent majority of viewers says Kerry seemed more confident and self-assured (26% say so for Bush) and 51 percent say Kerry had better command of issues and facts (37% for Bush). Forty-seven percent say Kerry seemed more personally likeable (41 % for Bush) and 49 percent say Kerry came closer to reflecting their own views on most foreign policy issues (43% for Bush). The two were nearly even on several other points, including who came across as a strong leader (47% Kerry, 44% Bush) and who had a better plan for dealing with the situation in Iraq (45% for both). Forty percent of viewers thought Kerry was too wordy and 57 percent thought Bush was too repetitive.
Fifty-seven percent of all poll respondents say they are dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time. Bush's job approval rating dropped two points from the Sept. 9-10 Newsweek Poll to 46 percent-a 6-point drop since the poll taken during and after the Republican convention. Forty-eight percent of registered voters polled say they would not like to see Bush re-elected but almost as many (46%) say they would.
Excerpt, the rest of the article is here: NEWSWEEK POLL: BUSH LEAD GONE
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allahsaysvotedem; baloney; bushbounce; firstdebate; fraudpoll; globaltest; napalminthemorning; newspeak; newsweak; polls; theythinkwerepuppets; totalbs; yeahright
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To: Pokey78
I can't figure this out. The horse race number is for registered voters, the other numbers seem to be all responders sometimes, registered voters other times. In my quick read I did not see any evidence of a likely voter screen, which I thought Newsweek had used previously.
Note the question on the draft-- it is really hurting. The Dems were very clever. This started with a very below the radar screen email "Field test" in South Carolina about 6 weeks ago, and has been ramped up gradually, only started to be talked about openly in the last week or so. The very first response was Bush's mention of it during his closing statement. I am afraid that was too late.
I do not expect to see Bush lose, I have since the spring figured that, tossing out any third party votes, Bush would take about 52% of the two party vote and win 300-325 electoral votes. But, I do get around and talk to a lot of people, and this draft rumor BS has been biting in the real world for a few weeks. The GOP needs to divert some resources to denouncing what the Dems have been doing.
To: tsmith130
I'm a bit disturbed, but I am optimistic. Just came from the Bush appearance in Cuyahoga Falls, OH. They said there were 18,000 people there!
electoral-vote.com has a final projection, as of today, of Bush winning with 347 electoral votes. Let's keep the faith!
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:19:34 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
To: stevem
TROLL ALERT
To: MNJohnnie
Some animals ( CNN, J Kerry ) are created more equal than others. AND DON'T FORGET IT!
164
posted on
10/02/2004 2:19:43 PM PDT
by
jetson
(throne)
To: tsmith130
No doom and gloom here. I hope it motivates us to work harder.
I have faith in the American people.
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:19:46 PM PDT
by
eyespysomething
(Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
To: MNJohnnie
"Check out this. So how do you explain this? Newsweek says lead gone, Gallup/CNN say debates didn't budget people? Which is correct? "
I saw that too and wonder ... .Trying to demoralize Bushies and energize flip-floppers hoping to win?
166
posted on
10/02/2004 2:19:49 PM PDT
by
nmh
(Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
To: HoundsTooth_BP
Since, I'm in the Free Republic, I would have known that the documents were fake!
167
posted on
10/02/2004 2:19:50 PM PDT
by
COURAGE
(A charter member of the Grim FReeper Club)
To: stevem
To: Rome2000
You missed one. There were the exit polls that all the media took on election day. They still got it wrong.
To: tsmith130
Don't get your boxers in a bunch. It's Newsweek for Christ sake.....they are an MSM. Jeez are Republicans such wimp's they let this garbage get to them? Don't make me regret my switching parties 7 months ago.
To: All
If you recall DRUDGE started the election night 2000 "fiasco"
He was the 1st, on the internet, to declare Gore had won FL
BEFORE the 2nd time zone in FL had closed.
Even though DRUDGE lives in FL
If you recall the media tried to give FL to Gore in 2000
VNS was a private consortium owned by
ABC News, The Associated Press, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, and NBC.
4 of the 5 of the networks and cable newsrooms
(only ABC waited till both time zones closed)
"announced" Gore had won
BEFORE the 2nd time zone in FL had closed.
This cost President Bush votes in the FL panhandle.
I was at a friends house and the State of FL election website results showed President Bush was winning
In fact, the networks which called Florida for Gore did so early in the eveningbefore polls had even closed in the Florida panhandle, which is part of the Central Time Zone. NBC called Florida for Gore at 7:49:40 p.m., Eastern Time. This was 10 minutes before polls closed in the Florida panhandle. Thirty seconds later, CBS called Florida for Gore. And at 7:52 p.m., Fox called Florida for Gore. Moore never lets the audience know that Fox was among the networks which made the error of calling Florida for Gore prematurely. Then at 8:02 p.m., ABC called Florida for Gore. Only ABC had waited until the Florida polls were closed.
About an hour before the polls closed in panhandle Florida,
the networks called the U.S. Senate race in favor of the Democratic candidate.
The premature calls may have cost Bush thousands of votes from the conservative panhandle, as discouraged last-minute voters heard that their state had already been decided;
some last-minute voters on their way to the polling place turned around and went home. Other voters who were waiting in line left the polling place. In Florida, as elsewhere, voters who have arrived at the polling place before closing time often end up voting after closing time, because of long lines. The conventional wisdom of politics is that supporters of the losing candidate are most likely to give up on voting when they hear that their side has already lost. Thus, on election night 1980, when incumbent President Jimmy Carter gave a concession speech while polls were still open on the west coast, the early concession was blamed for costing the Democrats several Congressional seats in the West, such as that of 20-year incumbent James Corman. The fact that all the networks had declared Reagan a landslide winner while west coast voting was still in progress was also blamed for Democratic losses in the West; Congress even held hearings about prohibiting the disclosure of exit polls before voting had ended in the any of the 48 contiguous states.
Even if the premature television calls affected all potential voters equally, the effect was to reduce Republican votes significantly, because the Florida panhandle is a Republican stronghold. Most of Central Time Zone Florida is in the 1st Congressional District, which is known as the "Redneck Riviera." In that district, Bob Dole beat Bill Clinton by 69,000 votes in 1996, even though Clinton won the state by 300,000 votes.
So depress overall turnout in the panhandle,
and you will necessarily depress more Republican than Democratic votes.
A 2001 study by John Lott suggested that the early calls cost Bush at least 7,500 votes,
and perhaps many more.
At 10:00 p.m., which network took the lead in retracting the premature Florida win for Gore?
The first retracting network was CBS, not Fox.
Over four hours later, at 2:16 a.m., Fox projected Bush as the Florida winner,
as did all the other networks by 2:20 a.m.
At 3:59 a.m., CBS took the lead in retracting the Florida call for Bush. All the other networks, including Fox, followed the CBS lead within eight minutes. That the networks arrived at similar conclusions within a short period of time is not surprising, since they were all using the same data from the Voter News Service. (Linda Mason, Kathleen Francovic & Kathleen Hall Jamieson, CBS News Coverage of Election Night 2000: Investigation, Analysis, Recommendations (CBS News, Jan. 2001), pp. 12-25.)
The big 5 media TV and Cable newsrooms are the real threat to the 2004 election.
..."Early on Tuesday, November 7th 2000, TV stations and various media based in Florida reported that Gore has won Florida which was a big surprise for everyone because of strong republican support. Bush's brother Jeb is governor there and Florida usually gives support to the Republicans. Some of them questioned that and during the night CNN showed 52% Bush's lead over 46% for Gore. It is almost impossible to believe that media could have been that blind and biased to report Gore's victory."...
To: AntiGuv
I think that most agree that Bush stank up the joint on Thursay night. However, as the implications of the 'Kerry Doctrine" begin to sink in amongst the populace, the clear choice is going to Bush.
Not to be sexist or anything PC like that, but chicks see it all the time: the smooth talker vs the stable guy. Smooth talkers (and their counterpart, the Bad Boy) may be fun for awhile, but when it's time to get serious, the guy with the good degree/job usually scores the girl.
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:20:40 PM PDT
by
lemura
To: tsmith130
Oh well, I guess we all just need to suicide out, then!
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:20:49 PM PDT
by
avenir
To: demlosers
Exactly. Who the hell are they trying to fool with this? This flies in the face of every other poll taken this entire season!
Take it with a grain of salt, guys...let the DUmmies think they're doing okay.
To: Pokey78
Terry McCauliffe had to have written that. Reading such a poor piece of propaganda all the way through makes me not be too concerned about their poll any more. They should have made it look a little closer than that if they want people to actually believe it.
To: MNJohnnie
Who owns NewsWeak?
The Washington Post does, the biggest lying losers outside of the New York Times.
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:21:35 PM PDT
by
demlosers
(The FreeRepublic Pajama Press!)
To: timbuck2
Read this article SLOWLY..it all spells out they are TRYING to make Kerry look good....Voter Fraud + Media Fraud...WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT TO NOV. 3 FOR OURSELVES AND FOR OUR TROOPS~~~~
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:22:02 PM PDT
by
lotex
To: AntiGuv
Part of his problem IMO is that Republicans were caught totally flat-footed in the post-debate spinThe other part of his problem is that Bush cannot think on his feet. He does well in one-on-ones, and prepared speeches, but he's terrible in news conferences.
When you and I can formulate responses to Kerry in real time and Bush can't, something's wrong.
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posted on
10/02/2004 2:22:04 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
("John Kerry's gonna win on his juices. "--Cardinal Fanfani)
To: lemura
I am not so sure the implications of the Kerry doctrine will sink in. Question is if the Kerry doctrine is so bad why sisnt Bush attack it more forcefully? that is what swing voters will say.
To: sinkspur
"The other part of his problem is that Bush cannot think on his feet"
this is the source of his debate problem.
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