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Kerry Lied in Debate
gop.com ^ | 9-30-04 | GOP.COM

Posted on 09/30/2004 8:23:01 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

KERRY CLAIMS HE'S "NEVER, EVER" USED WORD "LYING" IN REFERENCE TO PRESIDENT BUSH ON IRAQ.

JIM LEHRER: "New question, Senator Kerry. Two minutes. You've repeatedly accused President Bush, not here tonight but elsewhere before, of not telling the truth about Iraq. Essentially, of lying to the American people about Iraq. Give us some examples of what you consider to be his not telling the truth."
SEN. KERRY: "Well, I've never, ever used the harshest word as you just did." (Sen. John Kerry, First Presidential Debate, Miami, FL, 9/30/04)

BUT IN DECEMBER 2003, KERRY TOLD NEW HAMPSHIRE EDITORIAL BOARD BUSH "LIED" ABOUT REASON FOR GOING TO WAR IN IRAQ. "Kerry also told a New Hampshire newspaper editorial board Friday that Bush had 'lied' about his reasons for going to war in Iraq, a word Kerry has been reluctant to use publicly for months. Yesterday he said he did not plan to use the word again." (Patrick Healy, "Kerry Camp Lowers N.H. Expectations Behind In Polls, Senator Now Seeks Spot In 'Top Two,'" The Boston Globe, 12/8/03)

AND IN SEPTEMBER 2003, KERRY SAID BUSH ADMINISTRATION "LIED" AND "MISLED." "This administration has lied to us. They have misled us. And they have broken their promises to us. The president promised to the people and the Congress that he would build an international coalition, respect the United Nations' process and only go to war as a last resort. I will tell you that from my war fighting experience, I believe there is a test for a president as to how you go to war. And that test is whether or not you can look in the eyes of parents and say to them, 'I did everything possible to avoid the loss of your son and daughter, but we had no other choice in order to protect the security of our nation,' and I know this president fails that test in Iraq." (Sen. John Kerry, Campaign Event, Claremont, NH, 9/20/03)


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To: Porterville
"Bush contained and framed these key "currents" of this liquid chameleon Kerry. Bush can now beat the hell out of Kerry within the house in which Bush framed. Kerry can't move. The only way for Kerry to escape is by exploding the frame, which will destroy his campaign... he'll have to embrace these "currents".... Bush has won, he was winning the debates... not the debate."

Good analysis. I have heard a few other comments tonight along those lines. Bush was a great poker player at Harvard business school. He knows how to play a hand and draw out an opponent. It is in Bush's blood. He doesn't have to fake it like Kerry does.

Mr Sol
141 posted on 09/30/2004 11:26:54 PM PDT by Solar Wind
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To: Chummy
Pray tell, giving Candidate Kerry the broad benefit of the doubt here, what incentive exists for some other country to expose themselves to expense in terms of money and its citizens' lives as well as potentially becoming a terrorist target?

Take France for instance. Their desire is to knock the US down a few pegs and force it into the globalist box where France can then have more freedom to advance as a great power. They wish to eliminate us as the lone superpower.

The best way to accomplish this is to elect Demcrats. If Kerry is elected, France will come over almost immediately. There will be an immediate gushing of love for Kerry and a quick agreement on supporting Iraq. There best bet is to support Kerry and back him up but still make sure the US loses in the end and is embarassed.

When the EU wins a trade fight they always place their economic sanctions on businesses in Republican constituency areas.

They will all rush to make Kerry look good while still sabotoging any US efforts
142 posted on 09/30/2004 11:30:04 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: JudyinCanada

I expect Rush will rip Kerry apart tomorrow .. that should start the ball rolling.


143 posted on 09/30/2004 11:41:17 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: JudyinCanada

"I think he is pathological"

I think you are right!


144 posted on 09/30/2004 11:42:39 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: christie

I also recall Kerry saying that the 911 commission did not find a link between Saddam and Osama. YES THEY DID!!

I know that for sure because Rush got the items from the 911 commission book and printed them in his latest Limbaugh Letter.

THIS IS A VERY BIG LIE!!


145 posted on 09/30/2004 11:49:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: christie

What a great link!


146 posted on 10/01/2004 12:09:04 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

When I watched the debate the first time, I was a little disappointed in the reactions of the President and his failure to hit harder on some of the issues. My impression was that it was probably a draw. I heard Kerry make several statements that I dropped my jaw on because he was either flipping again or misstating the facts.

I listened to the debates a second time and came away feeling that President Bush won the debate because of content. While I still wish he had hit some of Kerry's statements harder, he did respond quickly to straighten out many of Kerry's statements. REassessing the debate, I now believe that the President carried it.


147 posted on 10/01/2004 12:19:37 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: CyberAnt
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What a great link!

Thanks, CyberAnt.

Here is the link again for others: Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

We need to get this information to the media because they are don't look for it themselves.
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148 posted on 10/01/2004 12:20:51 AM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: Barnstormer

Plus, Kerry also said that we turned over the fight in Afghanistan to local tribal leaders (but he didn't call them that - it was something sort of derrogatory), and then he claimed these same people had been fighting the USA .. that's not true!


149 posted on 10/01/2004 12:22:32 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh


Kerry could even say a WH Secret Service SOB lied about Iraq.

Not that Kerry would call a Secret Service agent and SOB...




150 posted on 10/01/2004 12:27:09 AM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: Chummy

And .. that stinking statement will be used by Iran against us .. while we're trying to pressure them to give up the nuke business. Disgusting!


151 posted on 10/01/2004 12:27:09 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: CyberAnt

Warlords is what he called them.


152 posted on 10/01/2004 12:43:29 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: MEG33

I thought that was kinda negative .. don't you ..??


153 posted on 10/01/2004 1:15:06 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: CyberAnt

It sure wasn't a term of endearment!..Denigrating allies is his specialty..as is his second guessing.


154 posted on 10/01/2004 1:35:26 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bttt


155 posted on 10/01/2004 2:17:15 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!


156 posted on 10/01/2004 3:01:23 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Chummy

Chummy...

What are you thinking, for goodness sake?

Kerry doesn't part his own hair in the morning or late at noon, or any other time.

Get a grip, man. :^}


157 posted on 10/01/2004 3:11:33 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: CyberAnt

I know I will feel better after listening to Rush today.

You know, when it comes right down to it, President Bush is just not a vicious guy. Kerry can look you straight in the eye and lie (who does THAT remind us of?). He would say anything and everything he thought he needed to say. He got in all the classic talking points, class envy, tax cuts for the rich (yawn), Haliburton, mess in Iraq, blah, blah, blah....

Bush is not an attacker. Kerry is truly a mean-spirited, vicious, nasty, intimidating, bully. President Bush is not a match for such a despicable creature. Bush is a leader, an honest, steadfast, leader. God bless him.


158 posted on 10/01/2004 3:16:55 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Grampa Dave; TaxRelief
Rove, Kerry analysts and GW's team told GW to just hang back in the first 2/3's of the debate and let Kerry say anything that he wanted to say. They probably knew that Kerry had gotten a preview of the questions before hand. So Kerry was loaded for bear and spewed and spewed. This was why GW look so poed while he listened to Kerry spew lies and other mantras. Now those lies and mantras will hammer Skerry until the next debate. If he does the same tactic in the second and third debate, his mouth in the debates will have destroyed him.

Excellent insight. The fact-gatherers will be busy today!

159 posted on 10/01/2004 3:55:35 AM PDT by Huber (Kerry/Edwards = "Tax 'em & Sue 'em" . Vote Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: bpjam; hchutch
Hello, Kerry offered to give the Iranian Mullah nuclear fuel and technology!!!!!! Anybody???? Hello??? Can you say Kim Jong Il?? A country that took Americans hostage is going to be getting nuclear fuel and technology from US??? Lord help us.

Kerry just gave the material for the next GOP commercial.

160 posted on 10/01/2004 3:56:25 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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