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Obama is Alive and Hiding in.....Pakistan? (Serious vanity...:-)
EV | September 28th, 2004 | EV

Posted on 09/28/2004 7:15:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Obama is spending very little time in IL. He's running from all but two debates. He has not been able to drive a message. He spent all his money building name ID, and now he and his cohorts think it's over.

The Dems are complacent.

Let's take advantage of that.

Just don't tell 'em...shhhhhh....

;-)


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: obama
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I'm confused. The poll about Alan Keyes being down by 51 points that everyone is taking so seriously was done by the Chicago Tribune. Right? Now, isn't that the same paper that came out and officially endorsed Obama last spring? If that's the case, how can this be a fair poll? Who did they poll? Democrats? Obama supporters? Have they released the information about who they polled?

I posted a link to an online poll last night that showed Alan Keyes leading, as he has been on other online polls. So, who's poll is the most accurate?

Why do we have to take a poll to see which way the wind is blowing in order to know who to vote for?


181 posted on 09/29/2004 1:59:27 PM PDT by Nan48
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Are you planning to tell them to go to hell too?

Only if they're giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

182 posted on 09/29/2004 2:06:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Alan has consistently been one of the best poiticians in the country on economic issues, and if you could be objective, you would readily admit it.

You mean like his position on tariffs?

Sorry EV, I simply do not share your adulation for Mr. Keyes. From my perspective, it is you who lacks objectivity.

183 posted on 09/29/2004 2:07:29 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi

How about his positions on fundamental tax reform? His solidly pro-business stance? His history as a governmental reformer? Spending? Regulation? Etc., etc. etc....?

Come on. His ecconomic and governmental positions are straight up the middle solid. Very solid.

Just because he believes that true free trade must be fair trade doesn't make him some kind of economic heretic. In fact, the vast majority of Republicans and shoot, just plain Americans, agree with him heartily on that score.

You're being disingenuous on this question.

Is that the best you could do?

Weak. Real weak.

Or is it that you just can't stand his social conservatism?

We already have a very Keyesian foreign policy, thank God.

If we were blessed to have a Keyesian economic policy, which the President seems to be steering towards more and more, by the way, we would have a future of freedom and growth and prosperity ahead for ourselves, our children and our grandchildren that would be beyond most people's wildest dreams.


184 posted on 09/29/2004 2:19:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: EternalVigilance

What can we do that don't live there? Freepmail or just tell me.


185 posted on 09/29/2004 2:20:40 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Nan48
I posted a link to an online poll last night that showed Alan Keyes leading, as he has been on other online polls. So, who's poll is the most accurate?

You're kidding, right?

186 posted on 09/29/2004 2:21:25 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: EternalVigilance; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Only if they're giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Apparently, asking Keyes to publicly commit to staying in Illinois after the election constitutes "giving aid and comfort to the enemy".

187 posted on 09/29/2004 2:22:44 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: malakhi

Nope


188 posted on 09/29/2004 2:22:53 PM PDT by Nan48
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To: malakhi

It is, because it is a 'gotcha' question intended for the purpose of tearing down Keyes, which is exactly what you are doing.

If you're not working for Obama, you're doing a good imitation of it.


189 posted on 09/29/2004 2:25:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: MissAmericanPie

You've got FReepmail! :-)


190 posted on 09/29/2004 2:26:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: EternalVigilance
We already have a very Keyesian foreign policy, thank God.

Keyesian? LOL

191 posted on 09/29/2004 2:26:16 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (The police never think it's as funny as you do.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Or is it that you just can't stand his social conservatism?

No, my disagreements are more about tactics than issues. I think the manner in which he is running his campaign is damaging to Republicans.

192 posted on 09/29/2004 2:31:19 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Yes, Keyesian.

You do realize that Alan Keyes has been at the center of the intellectual policy debate in this country for many years now, right?

And his principles and ideas are those of the vast majority of Republicans these days; with a few minor exceptions.

No one is perfect.


193 posted on 09/29/2004 2:31:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I'm a Keyesian Conservative! LOL


194 posted on 09/29/2004 2:32:54 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: malakhi
I think the manner in which he is running his campaign is damaging to Republicans.

Thanks rather ironic, when it is you who is attacking our Republican candidate five weeks out from a general election.

195 posted on 09/29/2004 2:34:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Barack Obama is the worst Senate candidate in U.S. history.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; malakhi

Ok, truth be told, being that he is Catholic and from my Catholic roots, I think he is the reincarnation of Abraham Linclon. It all makes sense now.

Sign me up, sir!


196 posted on 09/29/2004 2:35:15 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: EternalVigilance
We already have a very Keyesian foreign policy, thank God.

That is George Bush's foreign policy; Keyes may agree with him, but it's not his.

197 posted on 09/29/2004 2:36:39 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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To: Howlin

BLASPHEMY!


198 posted on 09/29/2004 2:37:15 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Nan48
Okay, very simply then. It is possible, even likely, that the Tribune poll contains some bias towards Obama. It depends upon the ratio of Republicans, Democrats and Independents they sample. Polling is as much art as science. But, the Tribune poll is not drastically out of line with other polls which have been done by other organizations, which consistently have shown Keyes trailing by 40+ points. The Tribune and other polling agencies have an interest in maintaining their credibility (they wish to be taken seriously), so there is a limit to the amount of bias they can "afford". Suppose the Trib does a poll the weekend before the election, and shows Keyes down by 45 points. Then on election day, he only loses by 20. Their credibility would take a huge hit. They may be several points off, but not that much.

Online polls are meaningless. They are self-selective (people choose to vote on them) and easily manipulated (people can vote repeatedly). They bear little or no resemblance to reality.

199 posted on 09/29/2004 2:38:04 PM PDT by malakhi
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You do realize that Alan Keyes has been at the center of the intellectual policy debate in this country for many years now, right?

Which government departments has he been associated with? Which departments that FORUMALTE policy?

200 posted on 09/29/2004 2:38:08 PM PDT by Howlin (What's the Font Spacing, Kenneth?)
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