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Bush: Militarizing Border Won't Stop Illegal Deluge
Newsmax.com ^ | Monday, Sept. 27, 2004 11:07 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/27/2004 11:40:43 PM PDT by Robert Lomax

The U.S. has no plans to deploy troops along the Mexican border to stanch the deluge of illegal aliens currently pouring into the country at the rate of 3 million per year, President Bush said in an interview broadcast on Monday.

"As the governor of Texas, I was very aware of this issue," Bush told Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly.

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"There is a long border, that makes it hard to control. We have beefed up places along the border to try to stop" the flow, he said. When told that his policy didn't seem to be working, Bush insisted, "It’s working a little better.

"They're doing a pretty good job down in Arizona, which is the main border crossing. ... I think there's a thousand more border patrol agents along the border. We’re modernizing border techniques, we’re using better surveillance methods to stop this crossing at the border."

The president contended, however, that illegal immigration was driven primarily by the economic realities of the region.

"If you can make 50 cents in the interior of Mexico and five bucks in the interior of the United States, you're coming for the five bucks," he explained.

"I happen to believe the best way to enhance the border is to have temporary-worker cards available for people," he said. "I think the long-term solution for this issue on our border is for Mexico to grow a middle class. That's why I believe in NAFTA."

When warned that "a lot of people are not going to like that answer," Bush told O'Reilly, "Well it’s a, a truthful answer."


TOPICS: Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bush; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; issues; spottheretread; terrorism
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To: FreeReign
Although I don't care for O'Reily, he did make a good point today.

He said Red China has far longer borders than the U.S. and their borders were completely secure.

621 posted on 09/28/2004 6:08:38 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: FITZ

tee-hee!!! That was good.

The freakin' minimum wage should be abolished anyway.

:O)

P


622 posted on 09/28/2004 6:08:56 PM PDT by papasmurf (Gimme' big ears, for 4 more years!!!)
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To: yarddog
People want to immigrate to Red China? LOL
623 posted on 09/28/2004 6:10:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: HitmanNY
I am just saying that most clear thinking Americans don't favor militarization of the border

I think most wouldn't care -- a whole lot of the border is way out in the desert where no Americans are --- the parts of the border in town are already fenced -- no one minds the fences at all --- in fact if you told the people living along the immediate border that the fences were coming down --- you'd hear the biggest outcry and protests --- and those would be all hispanics. Silvestre Reyes actually became very popular among hispanics with Operation Blockade and Operation Hold-the-Line --- which drastically lowered much of the crime rate in the border towns.

624 posted on 09/28/2004 6:10:09 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: yarddog
Although I don't care for O'Reily, he did make a good point today. He said Red China has far longer borders than the U.S. and their borders were completely secure.

LOL, and how would O'Rather-Rielly know that?

625 posted on 09/28/2004 6:10:15 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I see the problem much like JR does. Militarizing our borders is not the American way. We can find better methods, and a good start would be a Fair Tax scheme to eliminate some of the economical incentives.

See my post #486.

Crap. I've heard it all before. Out of the millions being employed by the damn criminal employers and greedy business owners none of them are being held accountable by law. You think this is an accident?

You think there is some conspiracy afoot Joe? Why not post a vanity on it? Tell us what you know..

Why are they above the law? Which laws can I ignore?

Feel free to ignore any you like Joe. Just don't come whining to me when drunks pee on your porch.

626 posted on 09/28/2004 6:10:49 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Jim Robinson
I think more should be done in Mexico so their workers don't need to come to America to make a living.

That would involve changing all their laws, their constitution, their government, their culture --- they would resent us a lot if we even try --- it's something they must do for themselves.

627 posted on 09/28/2004 6:11:18 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jim Robinson
People want to immigrate to Red China? LOL

LOL!

628 posted on 09/28/2004 6:11:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I don't know how O'Reilly knows that, maybe he once tried to sneak in.


629 posted on 09/28/2004 6:12:11 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you Jim, I respect your opinion very much. I hope someone, somewhere has a plan that puts America and Americans first, and I hope they roll it out at least in the nick of time...God bless you and yours richly. We have every responsibility to protect ourselves today and protect our country for tomorrow. Something is going to give, and someone is going to be pissed...


630 posted on 09/28/2004 6:12:34 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: tpaine
" a good start would be a Fair Tax scheme to eliminate some of the economical incentives. See my post #486."

Well, now there's a decent answer... dunno how I missed it.
Quote #486:

"It would abolish income taxes & SS deductions for a 20% [or more] federal sales tax on EVERY new product or service, even food/clothes/etc.

Illegals would have to pay the tax, but they would not be reimbursed, as would citizens.
In effect an illegals cost of living would go up by whatever the individual tax rebate would set at. For illegals with families, it would probably price them out of our labor market."

I like it. Best answer to the economic problem so far, IMHO.

Though I'd still be looking for a way for the gov't to do it's job protecting our borders from our enemies...
631 posted on 09/28/2004 6:12:55 PM PDT by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: FreeReign
I can be 2000 miles from home, and they can tell me in 3 seconds of my bank account is over drawn by one dollar. Yet we are told that employer's can't determine if someone is eligible to work in this country, and is here illegally? Sure.....

You think these greedy employers that are not being held accountable by law for hiring these hundreds of thousands/millions of illegals is somehow an accident?

632 posted on 09/28/2004 6:13:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Poohbah
The folks concerned about illegal immigration haven't done jack-s**t for the GOP. It's too much like work, after all.

What are you talking about??? WE are the GOP...The questions is, what are those politicians doing for us????

633 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:18 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Whatever Joe. Obviously you're a tough guy in a tough neighborhood. I'm impressed.
634 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:32 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: tpaine
You think there is some conspiracy afoot Joe?

Well, er....Yes I do. LOL!

What do you call it?

635 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Robert Lomax
After reading much of this thread I almost feel like doing a Sneaky Pete and just abandoning it.

If a conservative web site is full of people willing to sell out American for cheap labor, I think the country is truly surely dead. It just hasn't been buried yet.

636 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:54 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Barlowmaker
You sure have changed your profile.

Yep, it's being revamped.

No longer a Marine tasked to the Embassy Guard unit?

I was a Marine Security Guard from 1990 to 1993.

That ain't infantry.

Your right, it's Marine Security Guard duty. Your basic MOS never changes. 0311 (Infantry) / 1984 - 1996.

State Department I believe.

No, Marine Corps.

Sincerely,

Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)

637 posted on 09/28/2004 6:14:56 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Jim Robinson
Constitution be damned, eh?

Not really --- someone has to pay when the illegal becomes pregnant or sick or when the children of the illegals want to go to school --- who should pay? Those of us who never hired any? Or those who actually benefit by breaking the law to bring in cheap labor? I don't get one iota of economic benefit over someone else having a cheap live-in nanny or gardener to keep their leaves blown off their driveway --- if someone has to pay -- and obviously someone does --- let it be the ones that brought them in. The government will quickly slap a lien on a taxpayer's home when the taxes become too high to be paid ---- it's time they leave the taxpayer alone and go after those bringing in the illegals.

638 posted on 09/28/2004 6:15:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: papasmurf

There you go. Eliminate the mimimum wage. Pay the farmworkers and other unskilled jobs that attract illegals the fair market price for their labor. Would solve a lot of problems.


639 posted on 09/28/2004 6:15:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Regulator

BTTT


640 posted on 09/28/2004 6:15:48 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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