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For ignoring constitutional war powers we reap the whirlwind
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | Sep 26, 04 | Judge Bruce S. Jenkins

Posted on 09/26/2004 10:16:55 PM PDT by churchillbuff

As a child I was taught to take the Constitution seriously. Some in my community asserted that it was a divinely inspired document which should be respected, revered and followed. After all, the creators of that document were persons of experience, learning and wisdom who had thought deeply about how government should be structured and how power should be divided. As a U.S. district judge, I have admired and cherished their history-tested insights. I speak here, however, as a citizen and only for myself.

The framers, with their bitter experience of colonial status, their natural mistrust of undue power in the hands of one man, deliberately fractured governmental power into three great departments - legislative, executive and judicial - each to balance or check the power of the other. Miraculously, that fundamental structure has endured for more than 200 years.

In the allocation of governmental power, the founders placed the power to declare war in the legislative branch. The words of the Constitution are plain. Section 8 of Article 1 says, "Congress shall have the power . . . to declare war . . . ." They did this deliberately and with full appreciation of the hard lessons of history, particularly British, French, Roman and Greek history. The design was to limit the power of one man to take the nation into war. They taught that the decision to start a war, and the inevitable cost in lives and treasure, foreseen and unforeseen, required that the nation make such a critical decision through its representatives in Congress, and to announce such group decision by a declaration.

The president has no power to declare war. The judiciary has no power to declare war. The legislative branch, and it alone, has the power to declare war. To date, the Congress has not declared war against anyone, including Iraq. Yet the president calls himself a wartime president. The Congress has funded a war, off budget, that has yet to be declared. The failure to declare implicates international treaties and agreements, including how we treat prisoners. Nowhere in that hallowed document, the Constitution, do we find that the president may declare war.

In 2002, the Congress passed a resolution which in effect delegated to the president the power to make war: "3. (a) AUTHORIZATION. - The president is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to - (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq . . . ."

Nowhere in the venerable document do we find the power of the Congress to delegate its responsibility to another, president or not. The Congress cannot amend the Constitution by legislation or resolution. One of the reasons for removing such a critical decision from one man was to slow the process down, to enable those charged with the responsibility for decision to examine with care the reasons, the facts supporting such a decision, and to make sure that the facts that drive the conclusion to start a war are real, not illusory.

By delegating the decision to the president and thus avoiding its responsibility, the Congress skipped that careful process and relied upon others to make an examination of the underlying facts and reasons - which now appear, with belated, after-the-fact examination, to be thin, flawed, or nonexistent.

It is elementary that the power to conduct a war, which is the responsibility of the president as the commander in chief, is different than the power to start a war, which under the Constitution is the responsibility of the Congress. Some may point to "precedent" that in the past some presidents have indeed acted contrary to the Constitution and the Congress let them get away with it. On occasion the members of Congress have been complicit in abdicating their responsibilities under the Constitution.

But their historic actions in no way obliterate the words and the wisdom of the document. The people are owed "due process" in a different sense than usually employed; that is to say, a congressional process which carefully and completely examines the factual footing for making a momentous and far-reaching decision on whether we should or should not initiate a war. And if Congress decides we should, the Congress must have the courage to declare that decision to all the world with a specified and named foreign state in mind.

The Congress should then be prepared to defend such a decision and be answerable therefore, including the consequences which flow therefrom, including the cost in lives and public treasure. Absent that, the people are shortchanged by their congressional representatives and as a result appear to have been victimized by an executive process which, at this point, seems to have been wanting in care and in depth.

I have long wondered about the failure of the press and other media to examine the war power clause in any depth within the context of our current state of affairs. I have long lamented that the avowed "strict constructionists" are leading the charge of those who would ignore the plain language of the Constitution. The founders were long on brains and experience. An imperial presidency was dangerous and they knew it. That's the very reason they built in a constitutional check to guard against it. To our sorrow it goes ignored. We reap the whirlwind.

--- U.S. Senior District Judge Bruce S. Jenkins has served 26 years on the federal bench in Salt Lake City.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
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1 posted on 09/26/2004 10:16:55 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

The Constitution also does not prescribe the exact wording that must be used in a Declaration of War. Congress authorizing the president to use force fits the requirement just fine, as far as I'm concerned.


2 posted on 09/26/2004 10:26:17 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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To: churchillbuff
The president has no power to declare war. The judiciary has no power to declare war. The legislative branch, and it alone, has the power to declare war.

The judiciary does not have the power to legislate from the bench, either. Last I saw, that was still continuing unabated.

Congress authorized President Bush to act. Deal with it, Judge.

3 posted on 09/26/2004 10:26:28 PM PDT by Prime Choice (It is dangerous to be right when wicked is called 'good.')
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To: churchillbuff
To date, the Congress has not declared war against anyone, including Iraq.

A funny thing happened on the way to Iraq. These bad guys, let's call them "terrorists", came over here and MURDERED 3000 of our fellow American citizens. I don't know about you, but I'd say they declared WAR on us. Wait, wait...here's the punchline. Congress failed to uphold it's Constitutional responsibility. That's all. So if you have a problem with the fact that we are in an "undeclared war", then take it up with Congress.

4 posted on 09/26/2004 10:26:38 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: churchillbuff
"AUTHORIZATION. - The president is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to - (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq . . . .'"

Here. Allow me to simplify that for morons.

"...to use the Armed Forces of the United States...to defend...the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq . . ."

Or, in druggie-anarchist-speak, our Congress told the President to use the Army to smack hostile dudes around in Eyeraq, man. Far out.
5 posted on 09/26/2004 10:26:38 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: churchillbuff

Found another dead horse to beat I see.


6 posted on 09/26/2004 10:27:43 PM PDT by bad company (What's the font kenneth?)
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To: bad company
another dead horse"""

Good point: that's how too many people - including some who call themselves "conservatives" -- regard the Constitution, as a dead horse.

7 posted on 09/26/2004 10:29:49 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
All hail king bush, right?

"In the allocation of governmental power, the founders placed the power to declare war in the legislative branch."

Uh, was this supplanted by Executive Order or did Congress cough up it's rights? Nothing stated on the specifics of the Act, which is limited in scope. Also, we live in the nuclear age and things move a little quicker than for Kerry & Co. to convene in a special session to vote to war against their friends...

8 posted on 09/26/2004 10:31:01 PM PDT by endthematrix (Bad news is good news for the Kerry campaign!)
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To: churchillbuff
It's valid to raise the issue of whether the War Powers Act way of declaring war is unconstitutional, causes problems, etc.

What's funny is to raise the issue over the Iraq war in particular, when the Serbia war was a much worse case. Compared to the way we made war on Serbia, the Iraq war was a million times more constitutional.

9 posted on 09/26/2004 10:31:29 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: churchillbuff

Gee, I guess that's why President Bush went through all of the trouble of getting authorization from Congress before going into Iraq, huh? Hint: John Kerry voted for it, too!


10 posted on 09/26/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval http://No,www.angelfire.com/art2/sofaking/index.html)
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To: Restorer
"The Constitution also does not prescribe the exact wording that must be used in a Declaration of War."

But in any other words, "dude, like, you know, it's really hard for cool dudes" (senile, nearly expired, ever-drugged hippies or their hallucinating young followers) to "understand...well...you know--all of that".

They are the stray Cheeches and Chongs of the Democrat Party. They "like, you know, get lost, man," and find themselves in places out of their element.
11 posted on 09/26/2004 10:32:27 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: churchillbuff

Congress authorized the president to use force and the president used force. Your constitutional problem here is?


12 posted on 09/26/2004 10:35:18 PM PDT by bad company (What's the font kenneth?)
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To: churchillbuff
And Congress through the power of the purse and impeachment can enforce their prerogative to declare war. Power in the Constitution was delegated along with the means to enforce that power, that is the true checks and balances. Pro forma is nice but not essential to the function of our government.
13 posted on 09/26/2004 10:37:10 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: churchillbuff
Good point: that's how too many people - including some who call themselves "conservatives" -- regard the Constitution, as a dead horse.

So if and when Congress shirks it's duty, all right thinking people should just wait for the terrorists to kill again? How about you offer a solution, if you think there is a problem here. I honor the Constitution as the perfect, inspired document that it is, but I will not stand by and watch it become meaningless by those who refuse to act upon it. If we don't fight and win this "illegal war", then the Constitution will not be worth the paper it's written on because it will be replaced by Sharia.

14 posted on 09/26/2004 10:37:39 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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To: Sofa King
That didn't count. It was only an 'Authorization to use force', not a 'declaration of war'. Check the Appendix at the end of the Constitution to see a copy of the blank 'declaration of war' form. The Founding Fathers left it there so we could photocopy it, fill it out, and submit it whenever the need arose.*


*(Okay, I made that up. There is no format. If there's any difference between 'making war' and 'using force', I'm sure that Saddam didn't notice)
15 posted on 09/26/2004 10:37:43 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Proudly FReeping in my invisible pajamas.)
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To: familyop
They are the stray Cheeches and Chongs of the Democrat Party.

Sadly, they are not all Democrats. We have quite a few isolationists right here in our own party.

16 posted on 09/26/2004 10:39:27 PM PDT by Stonedog (Mr. Blather... tear down this STONEWALL!!)
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For those who have just had a few tokes, thoughts of the dangers of defending our country is really scary immediately after the initial paranoia sets in, no?

...you know what I enjoy? ...the way Kerry's anti-defense cowards get so puffed-up and start ranting and raving beside the real point in these arguments--their personal feelings about being in dangerous situations.


17 posted on 09/26/2004 10:39:48 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

The US military has been involved in a great many "wars." If you count the various Indian wars, the number of military conflicts probably numbers in the hundreds.

As far as I know, Congress formally declared war in only 6 of them: Revolution, 1812, Mexican, Spanish-American, WWI, and WWII.

In by far the bloodiest war ever fought by Americans, the WBTS, Congress never formally declared war, for the obvious reason that Congress refused to recognize the Confederacy as a legitimate entity by doing so.


18 posted on 09/26/2004 10:40:25 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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To: Steel Wolf

Good one. LOL Wish I'd said that.


19 posted on 09/26/2004 10:41:23 PM PDT by Restorer (They have the microphone, but we have the remote.)
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To: Restorer

Perhaps the "congress never declared war so it's unconstitutional" crowd would be happier if they could require congress only authorize the war on official 'declaration of war' stationary available at office max.

But if they want to require that the declaration be worded in a specific way to make them happy, then THEY would have to be the ones to change the constitution. Because the constitution only determines WHO can declare war, not HOW it is declared.


20 posted on 09/26/2004 10:42:06 PM PDT by flashbunny (How do you tell which polls are right? Simple. Just look at how the Kerry campaign is acting.)
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