Posted on 09/26/2004 9:53:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
I just got back from a trout fishing trip with some friends. Somehow Kerry came up, and I mentioned the fact that the War Remnants Museum in Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City has a photograph of John Kerry honoring him as a NORTH Vietnam war hero, and that this made Mr. Kerry a traitor to his country.
A friend of a friend who was fishing with us WENT OUT OF HIS MIND. He said it was a lie, and the the Bushes were this and that and the other thing. I offered to give him my copy of "Unfit for Command" and he said there was nothing but lies in it, even though he has never seen it.
It was pretty incredible. There are some deeply disturbed Liberals out there right now, and like all people who wear "peace" on their sleeves like "the religion of peace," I fear violence when John Kerry suffers a humiliating defeat this November.
If it's not close, they can't cheat, but I am betting that soon you won't be able to tell the difference between a Liberal and an Islamofascist.
Sorry for the vanity, but this encounter really bothered me.
Libs are a**holes. It's just that simple. Haven't met an exception to that yet. They're just SO right on just everything, donchaknow, and if you don't agree, you're a knuckle-dragging neanderthal.
F*** 'em.
and the most unreasonable of the lot in highly religious union households.......
Irish Catholic perhaps or Italian Catholic?
OK, that's scarry, I voted for Dukakis,Carter, Mondale, Clinton twice, and Gore in 2000. I am a former, and i stress former 32 year registured Democrat. This time around i'm voting Bush.Your mother and i have alot in common.
Don't know if you're old enough to remember a song with the chorus: "You've been slippin' into darkness - pretty soon you're gonna pay!" With the nastiest/worst of the left, you're dealing with abberational thinking. They buy the "comfort" of thinking they "understand and know more" than right-thinking people - imagining they're "Michael Jordans" of the polis, when in fact and in truth they're "Dennis Rodmans" at best.
I hesitated to bring that up, but, yes, the most unreasonable and unreasoning seem to be Catholic, although I don't see any particular ethnic pattern, and of course Jewish. We're treading on dangerous ground here, but I'll tell you I will NEVER understand why Republicans don't get 90% of the Jewish vote. They're like cows voting to subsidize meat packers.
My in-laws hit my wife with the story that Bush flew a bunch of Saudis safely out of the US right after 9/11. Anybody know the scoop on this story?
I appreciate your observations. I would agree that spiritual deadness is likely associated with the existential emptiness you identify, and leaves the unbeliever vulnerable.
I don't know that all these people are atheists, they might be, but the way I would approach it is to allow that people can reach this endpoint by diverse routes.
Once there, the common element is being totally closed to any message which is discrepant from an exceedingly narrow and intensely held attitude. Questions of true and false, accurate and distorted, pale to insignificance.
For these dead-end true believers, the sacrifice of truth is a small price to pay for the sake of the cause.
Their ego is so deeply involved in their view of the world, that any input which raises a challenge to it is taken as a personal assault. Hence the hostility and rage.
That was Richard Clarke who did that.
They probably learned that from Michael Moron in "Farenhype 911."
"Interestingly, I've seen similar statements regarding why Muslims hate America so much"
There is a common dynamic present in Bush-haters, America-haters generically, and Arabized moslems who hate the West.
It is narcissistic rage at the core: the object of hate being, by its very existence, a standing witness to the personal inadequacy of the hater.
In short, they hate Bush because he is ten times the man any current 'rat politician is, they all know it, and because they covertly question their own adequacy they take his integrity as a silent attack on their lack of same.
So it goes with the anti-Americans and anti-Western moslems.
Losers hate winners and try to discredit or disparage them in any way they can.
Once there, the common element is being totally closed to any message which is discrepant from an exceedingly narrow and intensely held attitude. Questions of true and false, accurate and distorted, pale to insignificance.
For these dead-end true believers, the sacrifice of truth is a small price to pay for the sake of the cause.
Their ego is so deeply involved in their view of the world, that any input which raises a challenge to it is taken as a personal assault. Hence the hostility and rage.
I don't think we disagree on the symptoms, but we might disagree on the cause of the symptoms.
Indeed, I'd submit to you that "The Cause" is the cause, i.e. their so-called "political" cause is precisely what causes the symptoms we observe in them [symptoms that we call "true-believer-ism," or "ego-ism," or "hostility," or "rage"].
But as I've tried to hit on in some of my other posts, I don't think that, at heart, this really is a "political" cause for these people: Rather, it's a religion for them, and, after a while, if you want to be intellectually honest about it, you have to start asking yourself just who their deity is, and then have the strength not to look away from the answer that's staring back at you.
Unfortunately, I've been treading on that very ground.
Sorry, I don't buy that "personal inadequacy" BS for a second.
Evil is evil.
Actually we need to start mocking them and making a cartoon image of a mad dog foaming at the mouth growling at any Bush in the neighborhood. Basically show them what idiots they have become. Belittlement is in order.
Thanks. American Jews are misguided as to their best interests.
you must live in a pretty liberal area.
That's redundant. Liberals, by definition, are disturbed.
You should have kicked his ass!
Ran into one yesterday at a home show. He drove up in a Outback that had three pro-Kerry bumper stickers on the rear end. His license plate told the reason. The guy is from Oregon (Portland?) and is a weird sight here in Pubbie-land. I was tempted to scratch out the stickers, but would hate that if someone did it to my Bush stickers.
Well, if it helps, think of "personal inadequacy" as an issue of overweening pride.
Good psychology must be congruent with good theology, and vice-versa; but they are not the same thing.
" Evil is evil."
Perhaps you read my thoughts as being a form of rationalization and exoneration for hateful behavior. That would be a misunderstanding of my point. I seek to understand evil not make excuses for it.
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